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Old 05-05-2010, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2vkiller
Just to let you and everyone else know, there is no track pack option on the new 2011 mustang. That susp is STANDARD on all the mustangs.
and the 3:73 too?
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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
and the 3:73 too?
$395 option.. Which you know the majority ordered will have lol I would bet the only cars without the 3.73 will be allocated cause what dealer would waist their time knowing the people buying these are doing it for performance?
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Originally Posted by TonyGXP
$395 option.. Which you know the majority ordered will have lol I would bet the only cars without the 3.73 will be allocated cause what dealer would waist their time knowing the people buying these are doing it for performance?
So not standard, thank you. Option or not, this Mustang is still factory stock.

Anyway, the point is that the SS would do better 1/4 times with that gear option, like the GT. No offense for any Ford or GM fanboys here; Ford was smarter than GM to offer this kind of option.
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Sounds like a drivers race with a slight edge to the properly optioned 2011 Mustang IMHO
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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
So not standard, thank you. Option or not, this Mustang is still factory stock.

Anyway, the point is that the SS would do better 1/4 times with that gear option, like the GT. No offense for any Ford or GM fanboys here; Ford was smarter than GM to offer this kind of option.
3.73 option is nice but i still prefer an ls3.
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The new Mustang's numbers are pretty impressive and make for good competition with the SS .... But what do you honestly think will happen when you compare the new Mustang modded vs the Camaro modded .... I highly doubt it will put up much of a fight with an evenly geared Camaro with a modded LS3 .... I just don't see that happening !
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I am looking into this but i was talking to my friedn Matt who owns Tune Time Performance today, says a new '11 GT on DR's, CAI, Clutch & Tune went 11.8 @118.. wow. if that's accurate..


just found this?

http://www.stangtv.com/forum/evoluti...eir-6778.html#
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The 2011 GT will be a force to be reckoned with.

Here are some new times from a lightly modified 2011 Mustang

Just posted on Evolution Performance FaceBook.

First 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V in The 11's!

11.98 @ 117MPH with a 1.67 60ft
11.85 @ 117MPH with a 1.64 60ft
11.82 @ 118MPH with a 1.63 60ft,

All three runs were done within 24 minutes,

Off-Road X-Pipe, Catback Exhaust System, K&N Drop In Filter,clutch, and a Custom Tune, M/T's!

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And Performance Clutch, And Bogart Drag pack, And MT ET street Biasply, and a freshly preped Track!!!

So when do they plan on Camming it????!!!
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Originally Posted by 06X6spdGTO
And Performance Clutch, And Bogart Drag pack, And MT ET street Biasply, and a freshly preped Track!!!

So when do they plan on Camming it????!!!
Knowing Evolution it won't be long. They were first with Shelbys in the 10,9,8,and 7 sec brackets.
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Camaro has went 11.7 with similar mods on stock suspension. Not a lot of people doing this kind of thing with the camaro so far. Only 2 guys running decent times doing this on camaro5. 11.7 and 11.8.

The cars are still very close even mod for mod.

BTW...this track is known for being faster than everything else.
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Another thing to consider, the mustang has a solid axle, which is obviously a big advantage at the drag strip. Look at the pic of the 5.0 mustang pulling the wheels running high 11's. This will not happen with the camaro's IRS. This is the main advantage the mustang has at the drag strip. I don't have the info in front of me but I'm pretty sure the bolt on 2010 camaros running high 11's were probably running 60' times in the 1.8x range, not 1.6x like the Mustang is doing. Not trying to take away from the mustangs solid performance, but I think it is really no surprise it is easier to launch that car. That is the main drawback of the IRS.

I am impressed by the mph it is running though, I have to admit, but on street tires I don't see a big difference between the Camaro and the 5.0 Mustang. I am curious to see the first cam swap, I think that is going to be where the 5.0 cant keep up with the LS3. Between the cost of 4 cams and the already agressive cam profile, I don't think it will be very worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by rayhawk
Another thing to consider, the mustang has a solid axle, which is obviously a big advantage at the drag strip. Look at the pic of the 5.0 mustang pulling the wheels running high 11's. This will not happen with the camaro's IRS. This is the main advantage the mustang has at the drag strip. I don't have the info in front of me but I'm pretty sure the bolt on 2010 camaros running high 11's were probably running 60' times in the 1.8x range, not 1.6x like the Mustang is doing. Not trying to take away from the mustangs solid performance, but I think it is really no surprise it is easier to launch that car. That is the main drawback of the IRS.

I am impressed by the mph it is running though, I have to admit, but on street tires I don't see a big difference between the Camaro and the 5.0 Mustang. I am curious to see the first cam swap, I think that is going to be where the 5.0 cant keep up with the LS3. Between the cost of 4 cams and the already agressive cam profile, I don't think it will be very worthwhile.
The camaros running 11's were running 1.6-1.7 60ft times as well. The new camaro can hook very well. The mustang is going to run camaro times with 20-30 less hp due to its weight advantage. The only time the camaro will start getting an edge NA will be after a cam swap IMO.

I had similar power levels in my 98 camaro and I was ALL OVER the road. It was literally impossible to launch properly on the street. You would have to ride the hell out of the clutch to get anything decent with that car. My current car is still very controllable at 435rwhp.
I have no doubt that in the average street situation on street tires/factory rims/suspension on both cars my 10ss could stay right with a h/c LS1 due to the traction issue. Both having traction...NO...my 98 was still noticeably faster....3-4 cars. Moral of the story?....it may have IRS...but it gets some pretty good grip for what it is.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
The camaros running 11's were running 1.6-1.7 60ft times as well. The new camaro can hook very well. The mustang is going to run camaro times with 20-30 less hp due to its weight advantage. The only time the camaro will start getting an edge NA will be after a cam swap IMO.

I had similar power levels in my 98 camaro and I was ALL OVER the road. It was literally impossible to launch properly on the street. You would have to ride the hell out of the clutch to get anything decent with that car. My current car is still very controllable at 435rwhp.
I have no doubt that in the average street situation on street tires/factory rims/suspension on both cars my 10ss could stay right with a h/c LS1 due to the traction issue. Both having traction...NO...my 98 was still noticeably faster....3-4 cars. Moral of the story?....it may have IRS...but it gets some pretty good grip for what it is.

That is better than I thought they were getting off the line. I see so many people with 2.3 60' times I thought 1.6 was impossible.
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Originally Posted by rayhawk
That is better than I thought they were getting off the line. I see so many people with 2.3 60' times I thought 1.6 was impossible.
Take a look at the average guy buying this car and you can understand the times they run.


2010 Camaro SS...the new cool car to have for the week so everybody ditch their lexus and 3 series and head to the track to embarass themselves.
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Originally Posted by ss1129
Take a look at the average guy buying this car and you can understand the times they run.


2010 Camaro SS...the new cool car to have for the week so everybody ditch their lexus and 3 series and head to the track to embarass themselves.
LOL...so true man
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anyone running an SRA yet? i suspect once that happens itll give camaros a slight edge when comparably modded.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
anyone running an SRA yet? i suspect once that happens itll give camaros a slight edge when comparably modded.
I wonder how it would effect the 2010's ergonomics and feel? It may be a little tricky to get one just right if you still want a daily driver.

I would also think this would be rather costly at this point in the game and quality would probably be an issue with the early units.

Done right I think the SRA would be better for the strip do doubt...but street/strip daily driver im not sure its the best option right now all things considered.
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Originally Posted by FOG52
Knowing Evolution it won't be long. They were first with Shelbys in the 10,9,8,and 7 sec brackets.
That and a dollar will get them nothing.
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