4th Gen vs. 5th Gen profile comparo. *pic*
09-21-2011, 10:23 AM
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Lets be real, no car is "optioned" like we would like because we are all different in our wants. Thats why we mod for the intended purpose. My 1SS was less then 30K with an $800 incentive. I bought it bare bones with the electronics package to have a good base to build on.
09-21-2011, 02:36 PM
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It ran 13 teens at 110 in 95 degree heat with a DA of 2600 feet with 2.0 60's. I can bet on sea level 12.7X's in 60 degree weather and more miles and seat time. See my point?
09-21-2011, 11:33 PM
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Better do some more research. I paid 29 and change for an LS3/manual car with electronics package which is seats/cruise/steering controls etc. brand new.
It ran 13 teens at 110 in 95 degree heat with a DA of 2600 feet with 2.0 60's. I can bet on sea level 12.7X's in 60 degree weather and more miles and seat time. See my point?
It ran 13 teens at 110 in 95 degree heat with a DA of 2600 feet with 2.0 60's. I can bet on sea level 12.7X's in 60 degree weather and more miles and seat time. See my point?
09-22-2011, 07:08 AM
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I've never really looked for or seen specs but its probably not much in weight but alot in value. Most SS' are just at or over 40K, no way I was spending that.
09-22-2011, 03:48 PM
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Hey guys and girls, I really hate to throw fuel on this fire more then it's already been done, but I feel like I need to post this.
I think this sums up people complaints about the girth of the 5th Gen pretty well.
This is next to a car that was considered porky back in it's heyday when it first came out.
I think this sums up people complaints about the girth of the 5th Gen pretty well.
This is next to a car that was considered porky back in it's heyday when it first came out.
09-22-2011, 05:53 PM
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09-22-2011, 07:44 PM
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LOL@ someone who cant read......
If you read, or understood what I said, I said 4th gens lack of rigidity is the cause for handling issues, not it's technically superior front suspension....
5th gens dont mph at all.... not from every one ive seen at the track....
If you read, or understood what I said, I said 4th gens lack of rigidity is the cause for handling issues, not it's technically superior front suspension....
120 mph trap speed?? Trap definitely seems off with the Gtech. I'm trapping 114 at the most. No Limit raceway is a good meeting place.
Same can be said that you haven't ran into the right 5th gen. 99.5% of all 5th gens aren't the right 5th gen either. Most of the cars I have ran have been my friends on mikey's or nitto's both auto and 6 speed with decent drivers. The 4th gens out 60' by a bit but the 5th gen comes right around with mph. ****, I was door to door with an MS4 cammed 99 SS from a 40 roll. I've ran a 12.4 on a stock street tire. I don't know how you guys can knock that. Weight reduction and a decent tire and my goal is 11's.
LOL @ 4th gen and chassis rigidity in the same sentence.
Same can be said that you haven't ran into the right 5th gen. 99.5% of all 5th gens aren't the right 5th gen either. Most of the cars I have ran have been my friends on mikey's or nitto's both auto and 6 speed with decent drivers. The 4th gens out 60' by a bit but the 5th gen comes right around with mph. ****, I was door to door with an MS4 cammed 99 SS from a 40 roll. I've ran a 12.4 on a stock street tire. I don't know how you guys can knock that. Weight reduction and a decent tire and my goal is 11's.
LOL @ 4th gen and chassis rigidity in the same sentence.
09-22-2011, 11:38 PM
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I think it's fine, but make things options that folks don't want, and options for things folks do want, like a built-in iPad mount/integration. Everyone's different with unique desires in a car.
The problem is that too many people expected something from a Camaro which a Camaro was not originally intended to provide (semi-luxury standards), so now we have a Camaro that is fluffed up with provisions and designs for the mainstream public. Whether or not this is good or bad all depends on which side of the fence you're standing.
09-22-2011, 11:52 PM
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You can change a lot of the 4th Gen road noise by adding thick floor mats from Lloyds and this new carpet:
http://www.stockinteriors.com/AutoCa...d=5&ModelId=71
Just get the Ultra Plush Cut Pile with the Mass Backing options and there's a much quieter 4th Gen. Add Koni shocks, welded subframe connectors and then you have a much nicer riding car.
I agree that the 5th Gens are a very refined ride.
http://www.stockinteriors.com/AutoCa...d=5&ModelId=71
Just get the Ultra Plush Cut Pile with the Mass Backing options and there's a much quieter 4th Gen. Add Koni shocks, welded subframe connectors and then you have a much nicer riding car.
I agree that the 5th Gens are a very refined ride.
Have you ever even ridden in one? A lot of road noise? My god the car rides like a Cadillac. If anything it is almost too refined.
At over 130 mph the car is as smooth as glass. Try 130 mph in a 4th gen and tell me what it sounds like in the cabin LOL (I had one...the windows suck in and it sounds like your in a space shuttle lol.)
At over 130 mph the car is as smooth as glass. Try 130 mph in a 4th gen and tell me what it sounds like in the cabin LOL (I had one...the windows suck in and it sounds like your in a space shuttle lol.)