twitchtwice

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with the mods on your car now you should be pretty damn close to a cobra, with heads you will take it for sure. like others said, if you can drive you could be one.

+1 for the ls1. unless you feel like payign 25k for the cobra, and another 5k to build it up. Not worth it imho

Coonass350

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stick with the T/A man.

qwk93ta

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C5 Zo6 > 03-04 Cobra > LS1 f-body...... get a Zo6 or a Cobra, I'm sure you will be happy with either one.

01ssreda4

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i have seen this cam go 420 rwhp. there is more left in your current setup

JayplaySS

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Guys, you have not looked at 03 Cobra prices in a while I guess. Some are under $20K. There is a Red 03 near me with 2.8 pulley and bolt ons @ 460rwhp with only 42K miles for $19K. Hell of a bargin and a better car than the F-body, sorry.

We all know the F-body down falls. Before I bought my Cobra, I had a paid for 99 SS H/C Camaro. I sold it, grabbed the 03 Cobra (already pullied/bolt-on) and was blown away with the difference in the design and fit/finish of the Cobra, not to mention the low/mid exsplosive power. Not a single squeek or rattle and the focking windows actually shot up, I was impressed. Seats...amazing, 5 disc indash cd, an actual trunk and the coldest ac I ever felt. The car handled no different than my SS, the brakes were actually better and I now had a dual exhaust with two mufflers and infinite exhaust choices. Shifter is way out of place and the ac only blows on your left knee so.... would I say it's perfect....no way, but to me, much better than any F-body.

I ended up selling it since I was not driving it and i sat in the garage. I also needed to free up the payment to help my father who moved in with me. Then, I got a great raise at work, enough to pay for a car by itself. If I had gotten that raise a month earlier, I would NOT have sold the Cobra.

I "thought" I wanted another SS. I found the nicest 02 M6 SS I could find. I wanted that car so bad. So I bought a lightly modded NBM hardtop M6 with chrome wheels and mint ebony interior, as close to the perfect F-body if you ask me.




Then I added a few more mods. TB, CB, UD, tune and few others. I realized how much money I would have to spend th make it even close to my Cobra and decided to sell it after 2 payments.

Here it is off the CA to the new owner.



My close friend at the time had a 2000 Z28 with MS3, boltons, converter and 3:73's. He went for a ride in a pullied 03 Cobra and ....yep, he bought it and sold his Camaro. He couldn't even drive a stick at the time. I had to go over his house at nights and teach him.

Here is the day he bought the Cobra and his Z28 was still parked at his house.





Sorry for the long post but this is an imprtant decision and you need the most info possible so you don't regret anything.

Can you make an F-body as fast as a KB Cobra? Sure. Will it idle and drive like it did the day it was new.... No way.

If you like having a Dr. Jeckel and Mr. Hide 600-700rwhp car...Cobra.

If you are thinking of only keeping it as a pullied Cobra, stick with the T/A. Pullied Cobras are not that fast anymore.
Remember, for the difference in the price, you can't fix the errors with the F-body.

" Throw FI on an F-body " you say.
Go ahead, bu dont forget the forged shortblock and the FI...over $10K for that alone, now the Cobra is not only a better car, it is also in the same price range, if not cheaper since you still have a much better resale and hell, a newer car too.

Thats as much as I can add.

I would take a C6 over a Cobra though, C6's are very fun AND more refined than both.

Later suckas!

RaggedRides

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Good reading, Jay. I dig the perspective.

The factory forged internals and high resale are probably the two biggest validations towards getting a Cobra. Unless you're planning on keeping it forever and value isn't a big deal, a built F-body isn't going to bring the same coin. You're right on that.

As far as creature comforts are concerned, that's just Mustangs in general. My old '96 V6 and my '95 GT practically blew ice out of the vents and were incredibly comfortable. I think interior quality is a hit or miss with them though. I've known two fellows with low mile '04 GTs who always complained about the interior rattles, but I've seen others that were perfectly quiet. Other than the seats, it's all the same stuff. The center bezel around the radio and vents is a bad spot, and so are those damn door pockets. Why Ford planned for those things to be where you yank the door shut is beyond me.

I used to really want an '03-04 Cobra, and still like them, but Corvettes have me second guessing. When the time comes to step my game up, I'll probably look into a C5 Z06.

JayplaySS

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Thanks buddy and BINGO! Go for the C5Z, they are at $21-24K now AMAZING!

F-bodies are the cheapest way to run 11's though, no doubt. I have seen a few 99-00's for less than $6K around here.

RacerXLs1

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Keep your car..

WALK NASTY984

thanks for the advice guys i'll have the car payed of in two months and it's got low miles so i think i'll just keep it

allbaugh_04

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Wow, what a tough decision.

Personally, i don't think there is a better bang for the dollar when it comes to the f-body. Maybe a foxbod...i love gm and i think the price to build one over a cobra is cheaper. That's why, personally, the f-body is for me. You can get a nice f-body for under 10 and a cobra for low 20s...big difference there. Up to you.


So the t56 can handle 800rwhp untouched? Tell that to my buddy who had his rebuilt after a few bolt ons.

MeangreenHD

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blue oval = fail (flame retard suit on)(this is LS1 tech!)

poor little 4.6 couldnt keep up so they supercharged it, well what happened when we supercharged the ls9........

throw a bottle on it and be done with it, prc's wont hurt either

ElectronSS

not this arguement, kids

jrob56

iTrader: (39)

i like cobra's and my dad is a ford guy, ive been trying my damndest to get him to pick up a cobra! after college when its time to move up i think ill pick up a c6 or maybe a c6z well see what prices are but my camaro will still have its place in my garage and ill never sell it...in the end it all comes down to what you want, go test drive a cobra and see what you think.

shoemike

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I say do it, and STANG UP.

wabmorgan

God no.

carrew

I have had both SS and a cobra.

Daily driver - comfort hands down - cobra
- Trunk space - cobra
- passenger back seat - cobra
- Stereo stock - cobra
- all around driving and handeling - Cobra IRS can't be beat.
- occasional stop light romp - Cobra stock will walk most LS1's, plus the sound is much cooler weee weeee weeee.
Fun factor drag strip/road course
- Drag strip - LS1 - stock they just move out well.
- cobra - Wheel hop very bad, will require $$$$ just to make it act normal. Damage very high if not properly set up.
- road course - LS1- Car can run with the best of them with the quick snappy LS1 and stock suspension
-cobra- does well here also - IRS is a benefit

Things I hate
Camaro SS - T-tops leaked no matter how many trips to the dealer, Passenger side bump for cat converter, rear seats were useless, so was trunk space, back spark plugs, parts always cost a lot more then mustang.

Cobra - I hate the IRS at the strip or just dumping the clutch, but on a rough road or back country roads I love it.

Now I am speaking camaro SS vs cobra, not C5 vs cobra.

Now since knowing someone with a Z06, then Z06 hands down. They do everything great.

Summerwolf

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Dude, his flows are totally "on the chain"

God what a moronic rapper and horrible looking vehicles.

01ssreda4

iTrader: (96)

very true....

cobalt9123

if you have the right heads/cam setup you should have no issue whatsoever murdering a cobra. That's if you have the right tune/traction/exhaust mods to complement.

I say keep it...termi's are nice, very nice, but wayy too expensive and overrated.

If given a certain amount of money to buy and mod a termi/fbody the fbody would murder it indefinately.

You might want to look into C5 zo6's though, as stated above

RaggedRides

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Nitpicking here.. Before I bought a Camaro, I figured the hatch would be completely useless. To my suprise, I've yet to be compromised by space. Being it's open to the car, it helps with longer cargo. I carried an 8ft table home in my Camaro and I've seen folks stuff entire hoods up there. It's shown usefulness in ways a Mustang couldn't have.

For what it is, the Mustang does have a damn big trunk though. I like the spare arrangement better on them.