Lets clear up which weighs more, 4th gen LS camaro vs TA
03-05-2014, 09:48 PM
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Lets clear up which weighs more, 4th gen LS camaro vs TA So over the last couple years I have heard multiple times that Trans Ams are anywhere from 100 lbs heavier to a few hundred lbs heavier. I want to know where guys are getting this from.
Common sense tells me, they are practically the same car. Same frame, same engine, same drivetrain, near same interior, near same wheels, same tire sizes.
As far as facts, all I did was go on cars.com and use the research tool. I kept all the variables the same. Same web page, searched same year, same LS1. From what cars.com shows,
2000 Camaro Z28 curb weight - 3,439lbs
2000 Trans Am curb weight - 3,417lbs
So this source is showing the Trans Am actually weighs a few lbs less. Some of you are thinking, "but curb weight isnt the actual weight". You're right, its the weight without all the fluids and driver. But both cars take the same amount of fluids and same type of fluids. And we're talking about weights without driver. So once you fill both cars up with fluids (oil, coolant, gas, ect) then the Trans Am will still come out weighing less.
So someone please tell me where this rumor of TAs weighing a couple hundred lbs more comes from
Common sense tells me, they are practically the same car. Same frame, same engine, same drivetrain, near same interior, near same wheels, same tire sizes.
As far as facts, all I did was go on cars.com and use the research tool. I kept all the variables the same. Same web page, searched same year, same LS1. From what cars.com shows,
2000 Camaro Z28 curb weight - 3,439lbs
2000 Trans Am curb weight - 3,417lbs
So this source is showing the Trans Am actually weighs a few lbs less. Some of you are thinking, "but curb weight isnt the actual weight". You're right, its the weight without all the fluids and driver. But both cars take the same amount of fluids and same type of fluids. And we're talking about weights without driver. So once you fill both cars up with fluids (oil, coolant, gas, ect) then the Trans Am will still come out weighing less.
So someone please tell me where this rumor of TAs weighing a couple hundred lbs more comes from
03-05-2014, 09:53 PM
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@Why87 - please tell me, where is there a forum specifically for comparing weights of cars. Would you like for me to put it in gen III internal engine, or in the detailing forum.... I could put it in the vehicle specific forums, either camaro or TA, but then opinions are going to be biased. I figured in the racing forum where guys actually race and weigh their cars would get good input....idiot
I'll also add that I cut out a few lbs by removing the AC, heat, radio, and speakers, but I've added more weight with my LQ iron block and 9 inch rear. And I weighed in at 3,570 lbs. A friend of mine with a mostly stock SS, just bolt ons, still has the aluminum LS1 and 10 bolt, and about the same weight as me, weighed in at over 3,600lbs
I'll also add that I cut out a few lbs by removing the AC, heat, radio, and speakers, but I've added more weight with my LQ iron block and 9 inch rear. And I weighed in at 3,570 lbs. A friend of mine with a mostly stock SS, just bolt ons, still has the aluminum LS1 and 10 bolt, and about the same weight as me, weighed in at over 3,600lbs
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03-05-2014, 09:55 PM
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@Why87 - please tell me, where is there a forum specifically for comparing weights of cars. Would you like for me to put it in gen III internal engine, or in the detailing forum....
I'll also add that I cut out a few lbs by removing the AC, heat, radio, and speakers, but I've added more weight with my LQ iron block and 9 inch rear. And I weighed in at 3,570 lbs. A friend of mine with a mostly stock SS, just bolt ons, still has the aluminum LS1 and 10 bolt, and about the same weight as me, weighed in at over 3,600lbs
I'll also add that I cut out a few lbs by removing the AC, heat, radio, and speakers, but I've added more weight with my LQ iron block and 9 inch rear. And I weighed in at 3,570 lbs. A friend of mine with a mostly stock SS, just bolt ons, still has the aluminum LS1 and 10 bolt, and about the same weight as me, weighed in at over 3,600lbs
03-05-2014, 10:05 PM
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Well I appologize. I've had a long day surrounded by mindless zombies and arguing about this.
Edit: I forgot to mention that when I weighed in at 3,570 and my friends SS weighed in at over 3,600, the weights were with us in the cars and on the same scale trying to keep all variables the same. He had slightly more fuel, but either way, there isnt some 100+lb difference
Edit: I forgot to mention that when I weighed in at 3,570 and my friends SS weighed in at over 3,600, the weights were with us in the cars and on the same scale trying to keep all variables the same. He had slightly more fuel, but either way, there isnt some 100+lb difference
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My SS weighted 3450 with half tank and my Craftsman tool box in it along with other ****. A Formula might weigh the same but not a T/A not to mention you can't get a cloth interior hardtop manuals everything Trans Am like you could a Camaro. Trans Am has a lot more going on. Side skirts bigger bumpers that wing. On top of having power everything leather and T tops.
03-05-2014, 11:04 PM
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TA's come standard with leather and T-tops, which are both items that add weight. Often times they have premium sound as well, again, added weight. They also have side skirts, bigger front and rear bumpers compared to Camaro's/firebirds, and the larger spoiler as well. Also, headlight motors, linkages, ect for the headlights. Weight, weight, and more weight. It's a lot of little things but they add up.
Now, of course you can get leather, premium sound, and T-tops on a Camaro or a formula, but they aren't standard equipment like the T/A. T/A's just have the extra stuff standard, so on average they do weigh a little more.
Is every TA heavier than every Camaro? No, probably not. On average do TA's weigh more than Camaro's? It's a dern safe bet.
Now, of course you can get leather, premium sound, and T-tops on a Camaro or a formula, but they aren't standard equipment like the T/A. T/A's just have the extra stuff standard, so on average they do weigh a little more.
Is every TA heavier than every Camaro? No, probably not. On average do TA's weigh more than Camaro's? It's a dern safe bet.
03-05-2014, 11:30 PM
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Like stated, it's the options. My TA is about 120lbs heavier then my Z28 was stock for stock. Body kit, more leather, motorized headlights, more electronics, rear wing, etc. It's not rocket science.
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My Z/28 weighed 3390 lbs from the dealer. I have leather and the monsoon sound sytem and power seat too. Auto.
Friend's trans am weighs 3660 lbs. He nor I have subs or anything that would add substantial weight.
Friend's trans am weighs 3660 lbs. He nor I have subs or anything that would add substantial weight.
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TA's come standard with leather and T-tops, which are both items that add weight. Often times they have premium sound as well, again, added weight. They also have side skirts, bigger front and rear bumpers compared to Camaro's/firebirds, and the larger spoiler as well. Also, headlight motors, linkages, ect for the headlights. Weight, weight, and more weight. It's a lot of little things but they add up.
Now, of course you can get leather, premium sound, and T-tops on a Camaro or a formula, but they aren't standard equipment like the T/A. T/A's just have the extra stuff standard, so on average they do weigh a little more.
Now, of course you can get leather, premium sound, and T-tops on a Camaro or a formula, but they aren't standard equipment like the T/A. T/A's just have the extra stuff standard, so on average they do weigh a little more.
But understand that it's not possible to have the exact same options on both a Camaro and a Trans Am, since many things are standard on TA and couldn't be deleted even if you ordered it new, as well as the fact that Camaros didn't offer options such as pop-up headlights, power antenna, seats with inflatable lumbar support, etc. Even a fully loaded Camaro still has a few less gadgets and body cladding (minus the SAP cars) than an Trans Am, so I think it's a safe bet that a TA will always weight at least a few pounds more.
03-06-2014, 01:30 PM
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Yes, a few lbs more. Not enough weight to make a substantial difference at the track.
It doesn't matter much to me anyways. I don't have power antenna, leather seats, ac, hear, power steering, back seats, anything under the dash, so on and so on. At the track i weigh just as much or less than Camaros.
Just trying to get the facts straight. And with me reading guys saying their stock Camaros weigh anything from 3300 lbs to 3800 lbs, and everyone using different scales, i can't come to go by someones word that that TAs weigh 300lbs more.
I will agree that TAs do weigh more, but not by hundreds of pounds
It doesn't matter much to me anyways. I don't have power antenna, leather seats, ac, hear, power steering, back seats, anything under the dash, so on and so on. At the track i weigh just as much or less than Camaros.
Just trying to get the facts straight. And with me reading guys saying their stock Camaros weigh anything from 3300 lbs to 3800 lbs, and everyone using different scales, i can't come to go by someones word that that TAs weigh 300lbs more.
I will agree that TAs do weigh more, but not by hundreds of pounds