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Old 05-28-2014, 09:37 AM
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so you guys are using the pc 1006 for a powersteering cooler?
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
Just figured I'd update my power steering cooler status... I decided to remove the Derale cooler I put on last year when I deleted the OE cooler. I notice absolutely no difference without it. So, I'll stand by my anecdotal assessment that all one needs is the upper radiator hose from a non-PSC car to alleviate this issue rather than going through the hassle of installing an aftermarket cooler. It's also nice not having those extra hoses running under there
I live in Mass and I'm gonna do the PSC delete this weekend hopefully. I'm gonna try this method first, did you loop the hoses? Or just plug them off? Thanks and you were right about this thread pulling you in. I read almost every page haha
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What cooler are guys recommending? Id like something small, and what are the diameters of the oem hoses that will go into it?


If I decide to run no cooler at all, can I still leave the oem psc I'm place and simply plug the lines off of it?

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I recommend the cooler illustrated in Post #1. It is very durable and held up perfectly until I decided to run the car up over a concrete median. (It took a lot of abuse until 1/2 of the weight of the car was put on it.)
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Originally Posted by Striker
What cooler are guys recommending? Id like something small, and what are the diameters of the oem hoses that will go into it? If I decide to run no cooler at all, can I still leave the oem psc I'm place and simply plug the lines off of it?
Don't know bout which brand but as long as it's a tube and fin, some people run heatsinks too, just not a stacked cooler.

3/8

I deleted mine, got a 3/8 x 3/8 brass hose barb and connected the two lines together.

I grabbed that at a hardware store for $4 or something.

Also got the rad hose from the 98? Camaro to replace the one with the PSC in it. That was $15 I think.

Hope that helps somewhat
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Originally Posted by Striker
If I decide to run no cooler at all, can I still leave the oem psc I'm place and simply plug the lines off of it?
Yes, this is exactly what I did with my '02 car. I just cut some very short pieces of 3/8" hose, and plugged them with bolts and clamps. This held up fine and would last indefinitely. I had planned to eventually replace the entire upper hose with one from a non-PSC car, but I sold the car before doing so.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Yes, this is exactly what I did with my '02 car. I just cut some very short pieces of 3/8" hose, and plugged them with bolts and clamps. This held up fine and would last indefinitely. I had planned to eventually replace the entire upper hose with one from a non-PSC car, but I sold the car before doing so.
Thank you RPM.

Did you notice the ps act any different?
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Originally Posted by Striker
Did you notice the ps act any different?
Not at all.

Also, my '98 didn't even come with a stock cooler, and the original pump (very low mileage, like yours) is still doing 100% fine (no leaks, no noises, no loss of power assist).

Earlier in this sticky, there is also a record of my testing of fluid temps without any sort of cooler at all, under normal city driving conditions.
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I was wondering about your 98 to see if it had a cooler or not.

The car is city driven and will never see the track but I would like to have the stock stuff in there, assuming it wont worsen the situation if it is blocked off.

Another member reported temperature readings from a car with and without a PSC....both were at 210F.

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Originally Posted by Striker
The car is city driven and will never see the track but I would like to have the stock stuff in there, assuming it wont worsen the situation if it is blocked off.
Check out the GM High Tech Performance article linked in the original post. From that article:

"For most people, the first time they pay any attention to the power-steering pump is when it either boils over or starts making a horrible howling noise, and this is often during the middle of an autocross or open-track day. LS1 powered F-bodies are notorious for burning up pumps. GM recognized this problem and started installing an oil-to-water power-steering cooler on the '98 SS and WS6 F-bodies, and also providing it as an option on all LS1-powered F-bodies. By 2000, the cooler was standard equipment on all LS1 F-bodies."

If you use the car as a DD or drive like a grandma, (I won't name names...) then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Check out the GM High Tech Performance article linked in the original post. From that article:

"For most people, the first time they pay any attention to the power-steering pump is when it either boils over or starts making a horrible howling noise, and this is often during the middle of an autocross or open-track day. LS1 powered F-bodies are notorious for burning up pumps. GM recognized this problem and started installing an oil-to-water power-steering cooler on the '98 SS and WS6 F-bodies, and also providing it as an option on all LS1-powered F-bodies. By 2000, the cooler was standard equipment on all LS1 F-bodies."

If you use the car as a DD or drive like a grandma, (I won't name names...) then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

I probably put 200 miles on it the last three years so. But, I did notice something wrong either way. There is definitely fluid leaking somewhere from my rack. The bottom of the k member has oil, and not my undercoating either. I might just plug up the psc but leave it in place.
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I went with a cheap autozone trans cooler and I was getting bubbles in my reservoir thinking it was too much of a restriction.

I moved up to a B&M stacked plate design with 1/2" NPT inlet and outlets. Used a simple 1/2" NPT to 3/8" barb brass fitting to adapt to factory lines.

With the cheap cooler I was getting about 156* after each auotcross run on a 80* day. But my pump was still whining and this is when I observed bubbles. Similar to shaking a bottle of water you see small bubbles. It did not boil over though. 63K mi on the clock.

Went from this:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=267252_0_0_

To this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bmm-70265

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I read thru most of this thread and determined I should go with the Derrale 13224 cooler mounted behind the chin spoiler and install the upper rad. hose w/o the cooler part. It looks like it comes with rubber hose but does anyone know if it's enough hose or do I need more. Also, how much power str. fluid will I need to do the job?? Am I missing anything... is there something else I should have or buy to complete this ??
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Originally Posted by transamterry
I read thru most of this thread and determined I should go with the Derrale 13224 cooler mounted behind the chin spoiler and install the upper rad. hose w/o the cooler part. It looks like it comes with rubber hose but does anyone know if it's enough hose or do I need more. Also, how much power str. fluid will I need to do the job?? Am I missing anything... is there something else I should have or buy to complete this ??
I mounted mine behind my air dam cause it was easy and mine is stainless. I installed the Perma Cool 1006. I bought a new piece of hose that was longer just to be safe. It doesn't cost much.
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the Derale kit I bought (before ultimately removing it) came with enough hose to use. It also doesn't add much more fluid, so one bottle is all you'll likely need to flush and refill the system.
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Thanks for the input,, the cooler and the new upper hose just came today. Looking forward to getting this one done, It's probably the one thing that hasn't happened to this car yet.. every other common problem on these birds has happened to this car -.-.-. but i still love it; maybe it's just a bad habit that's hard to break
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Maybe this question has already been answered. Sorry, havnt had time to read the whole post.
Question is, are there any cons to having an aftermarket cooler as far as cold weather goes? Just bought a turn one ps pump and wondering if i should keep the oem cooler or go aftermarket?
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As long as you don't autocross or RR it a tube and fin will be fine.
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Originally Posted by bluegoose177
Maybe this question has already been answered. Sorry, havnt had time to read the whole post.
Question is, are there any cons to having an aftermarket cooler as far as cold weather goes? Just bought a turn one ps pump and wondering if i should keep the oem cooler or go aftermarket?
I definitely wouldn't keep the OEM cooler, as it's just a matter of time before it fails and will cross-contaminate the PS fluid and coolant. IMO, the only two options would be aftermarket or nothing at all.

I've never bothered to install and aftermarket cooler myself, and I don't know if anyone here in the north has had trouble with over-cooling in cold weather.
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Originally Posted by bluegoose177
Maybe this question has already been answered. Sorry, havnt had time to read the whole post.
Question is, are there any cons to having an aftermarket cooler as far as cold weather goes? Just bought a turn one ps pump and wondering if i should keep the oem cooler or go aftermarket?
In your case, I'd absolutely be removing that OE cooler and not running another at all.


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