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Old 02-13-2009, 02:28 PM
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And I understand that you can't make a magic intake that does everything, but if they could design an intake similar to the new one or even radically different that would just barely clear on an f-body it would be win-win for everyone.

I'm not against this intake. It's awesome. I just wanted to argue with the anti-fbody intake people.
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how about an Ls4 intake ? throw us a bone once
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
How do you know that the swapped engine market is a very small market? On the power tour, I saw almost as many older cars with swapped in ls1's as I did see fourth gen f-bodies. Obviously Edelbrock has done pretty well over the years catering to those guys. Maybe Edelbrock knows that to compete on the f-body market, it's got to compete against FAST and they may not want to.

Fact is old school hotrodders are into metal intake manifolds and that's where Edelbrock shines. I love the look of this manifold, and the performance gains are that much better, but unless I want to drop my k-member an inch, and cut my cowl and windshield wipers, it's not going to happen, but I bet it would fit in a first gen with no problems.
You have a point. BUT how many modded LS1 swaps are in hot rods and muscle cars? Not many. The shows I have gone to most of the LS1 swapped cars are bone stock down to the manifolds. If they have any mods it is slapping a carberator and some shorty headers on it and calling it a day. All Im saying here is I dont understand why Edelbrock would abandon such a large part of the market.
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There are some old schooler's who have swapped in an ls1 that don't read the internet. Their extent of new knowlege is magazines.

Fact is, Edelbrock sticks to aluminum, hell they have their own forge in CA. So they are going to go after the aluminum intake segment. If they've read this board, they know the whole 'heat soak' argument that always comes up, so why should they worry about this market, the desire just isn't there. Also check out the sheet metal intakes, they kill low end power and focus on high end power because of the shorter runner lengths. So to compensate for that, you need a 'higher' intake to get a tunnel ram effect to help out the lower end. Fact is, because of how close our engines are to our cowls, it's tough to beat the FAST and ls6/ls7 intakes.
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Anyone out there got into cutting one up to make it work for different applications? When I worked in a Winston Cup shop we cut up manifolds like crazy. Where's your adventure?

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considering i just picked up 18hp and 12ftlbs of torque with a ported FAST 90/90 over my ls6/ported TB......same day, same dyno, tuned for each.

i find it hard to believe THIS intake would outperform the FAST.
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Originally Posted by Tigman
Anyone out there got into cutting one up to make it work for different applications? When I worked in a Winston Cup shop we cut up manifolds like crazy. Where's your adventure?

Mark
no doubt. the fact that it's aluminum opens up the door for just about limitless modifications, like adding a second set of injectors, direct port nitrous / meth... who knows
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Originally Posted by teke184
considering i just picked up 18hp and 12ftlbs of torque with a ported FAST 90/90 over my ls6/ported TB......same day, same dyno, tuned for each.

i find it hard to believe THIS intake would outperform the FAST.
Some of us find it obsurd to spend $1500+ for an intake and throttle body for 18hp and 12 tq.

If Edelbrock made the intake one inch shorter it would fit, probably make all of 3 hp and tq less than the FAST and only cost $400.
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Originally Posted by teke184
considering i just picked up 18hp and 12ftlbs of torque with a ported FAST 90/90 over my ls6/ported TB......same day, same dyno, tuned for each.

i find it hard to believe THIS intake would outperform the FAST.
Your logic seems pretty flawed. THIS intake doesn't make a 60 degree + turn getting from the bellmouth to the head. THIS intake also was not limited in anyway for optimum plenum volume.
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less than $1100 for the intake and TB from TSP.

$50 for a dremel tool and you've got yourself a ported FAST.

sell the LS6 and stock TB for $300-400

you've got yourself the best intake on the market for $750 or so.



its funny.....
every day you see guys spending $800 on a borla catback for 10hp, $1000 on stainless headers for 20hp

but $1200 for 20hp is obscene?



and besides....the FAST is readily available, proven, and already available USED.
got mine for $1200 SHIPPED....intake, tb, gaskets, bolts, ls1 fuel rail, AND BOSCH 42# injectors.

i'll enjoy my 20hp while the rest of the crowd sits and waits for the "new intakes" to hit the store shelf.
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Originally Posted by teke184
less than $1100 for the intake and TB from TSP.

$50 for a dremel tool and you've got yourself a ported FAST.

sell the LS6 and stock TB for $300-400

you've got yourself the best intake on the market for $750 or so.



its funny.....
every day you see guys spending $800 on a borla catback for 10hp, $1000 on stainless headers for 20hp

but $1200 for 20hp is obscene?



and besides....the FAST is readily available, proven, and already available USED.
got mine for $1200 SHIPPED....intake, tb, gaskets, bolts, ls1 fuel rail, AND BOSCH 42# injectors.

i'll enjoy my 20hp while the rest of the crowd sits and waits for the "new intakes" to hit the store shelf.
Good buy. I was thinking the manifold and TB were ported by Mamo or someone, and they are not cheap. I also think Borla catback and Stainless headers are crazy FWIW.
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Originally Posted by dman
no doubt. the fact that it's aluminum opens up the door for just about limitless modifications, like adding a second set of injectors, direct port nitrous / meth... who knows
a man that understands a few things !!

only nice thing about the fast , it has the ability to add burst plates in case a a nitrous sneeze

the fact it can be taken apart easier , and not require welding is a minor plus

since ill be turbo'd the aluminum is less likely to leak like a fast would , normally id use a carb intake and tb with a 90 elbow , but this 1 fits the bill better and looks better to boot , so i need to redo my strut bar ..... easy fix for me , add a cowl hood ........ was already on the plan because of how im running the charge pipe over the radiator

not to mention it would look good under the hood of my 68 elco , once i swap a LS motor into it , and yes swaps with the LS motor are bordering the popularity and success of the 55-97 small block , hell its easier to get a 5.3 over 400 hp , than a 327 small block , LOL
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Originally Posted by Nitrojunkie
You have a point. BUT how many modded LS1 swaps are in hot rods and muscle cars? Not many. The shows I have gone to most of the LS1 swapped cars are bone stock down to the manifolds. If they have any mods it is slapping a carberator and some shorty headers on it and calling it a day. All Im saying here is I dont understand why Edelbrock would abandon such a large part of the market.
I believe there are alot more swaps than you can imagine - probably more old timers - we want our cake and eat it too. To old timers 7-1000$ for a plastic intake is insane! I bought a fast 78 so mine dosent have the plain old black intake figured if a LS6 was 300 whats 2 more? I'd really like to see some comparo on the Edelbrock intake as my 69 Firebird has hood clearance -I do think they could of made it look better maybe squarer to make it look sheetmetal style, Oh and my swap isnt going to be all stock-Head/Cam/Intake/Exhaust but nothing to radical just a fun driver.
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i called edelbrock today because i wanted to know lol, they said call jegs the 1st week of march and they will have them.

But.... even if they do have them then, im honestly beginning to wonder is it really worth it?

jegs has the manifold listed for $450

then you get a 90mm tbody for $350

ur at 800 total right now.

A fast 90/90 combo is <1100 from tsp

so for another 300 bucks you can have the fast and it will bolt right on no issues? It almost seems kinda dumb not to spend the extra 300 bucks? i mean whats another 300 when your already gonna spend 800
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Originally Posted by teke184
less than $1100 for the intake and TB from TSP.

$50 for a dremel tool and you've got yourself a ported FAST.

sell the LS6 and stock TB for $300-400

you've got yourself the best intake on the market for $750 or so.



its funny.....
every day you see guys spending $800 on a borla catback for 10hp, $1000 on stainless headers for 20hp

but $1200 for 20hp is obscene?



and besides....the FAST is readily available, proven, and already available USED.
got mine for $1200 SHIPPED....intake, tb, gaskets, bolts, ls1 fuel rail, AND BOSCH 42# injectors.

i'll enjoy my 20hp while the rest of the crowd sits and waits for the "new intakes" to hit the store shelf.
Exactly right. I bought my 92mm FAST and TB from TSP last year for $1127 shipped and sold my LS6 intake for $350 so I only paid $777 for 32rwhp and 20rwtq. I'll take that anyday. I will say that stainless headers are worth it though.

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If you all already have a fast , why are you in this thread bashing the Edelbrock? I have a fast also on my trans am but would prefer this one for my Race car. Its a light weight Nova
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
If you all already have a fast , why are you in this thread bashing the Edelbrock? I have a fast also on my trans am but would prefer this one for my Race car. Its a light weight Nova
Who are you directing this at? If its me i'm not bashing the edelbrock i'm making a case to the people who bash the fast for being overpriced. If not directed at me then happy cheeseburgers and grits
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Its for everyone in here bithcing about this intake and trying to justify why they spent more money for the fast.

The fast is a good intake and has its place. This one may make more power where a lighter car can take advantage of it and with a nice $300 savings.


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