New Edelbrock LSx Intake Manifold at SEMA, claiming much more power than FAST
04-15-2009, 01:46 PM
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are you kidding? there are way more trucks and street rods with these motors than camaros. remember they quit making f-bodies 7 years ago... You really think Edelbrock didn't test the waters before dedicating millions of dollars into tooling and R&D? ask GM performance or Scoggin dickey how many crate motors they sell a year? All the old timer street rod guys hate the plastic intakes. They want the old high rise tunnel ram style aluminum intake look. Besides that, the racers will love the intake for it's aluminum construction and weldability (as in extra injectors). Not to mention this bitch looks 100% better under the hood of my car than the factory stuff.
There really is no reason to debate this. If you own a late model F-body, Vette or GTO just consider this intake NOT for you! You don't bitch when Edelbrock comes out with a new Honda intake do you? Ofcoarse not, because it has nothing to do with your car.
There really is no reason to debate this. If you own a late model F-body, Vette or GTO just consider this intake NOT for you! You don't bitch when Edelbrock comes out with a new Honda intake do you? Ofcoarse not, because it has nothing to do with your car.
04-15-2009, 03:23 PM
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couldnt have said it any better , thank you d-man
if i didnt get the deal i did on the vic jr and 4 barrel tb , i would bought this 1 for my gto , done a few mods , added a cowl hood , called it a day
but then im old school , MODIFYING something is 2nd nature to me , most people now , think modifying means bolting up a new part , and going down the road
if i didnt get the deal i did on the vic jr and 4 barrel tb , i would bought this 1 for my gto , done a few mods , added a cowl hood , called it a day
but then im old school , MODIFYING something is 2nd nature to me , most people now , think modifying means bolting up a new part , and going down the road
04-15-2009, 05:51 PM
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whats scarey to me is none of the shops will post results. Maybe they will after most of there investment is shipped out to customers.
My Nova runs better the harder I turn it. That is with the truck intake with the small tb. My setup needs something like this intake to take advantage of 7200 rpm's.
My Nova runs better the harder I turn it. That is with the truck intake with the small tb. My setup needs something like this intake to take advantage of 7200 rpm's.
. buy one and test it yourself
04-16-2009, 10:35 AM
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well I do recall WCCH saying that they were going to be testing once they got them. Then no test were posted.
I believe it will work also but it would be nice to see shops that do independent testing.
I will be getting one but I am in the process of painting the Nova . when that is done I will get one.
I believe it will work also but it would be nice to see shops that do independent testing.
I will be getting one but I am in the process of painting the Nova . when that is done I will get one.
04-16-2009, 02:20 PM
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Did i miss anything? I don't see any numbers. I agree to the theory of "quit bitchin' and test it urself," but i'm a broke ***.. any non-broke asses wanna take the ball n run with it?
04-16-2009, 02:39 PM
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04-20-2009, 04:58 AM
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04-20-2009, 05:05 PM
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Sorry about taking so long to get the dyno up. It's been busy here.
Here is the exact same motor, but in my Camaro with an LS2 intake.
http://www.eadperformance.com/35thvideos/408dyno.jpg
and a comparison of the two side by side:
http://www.eadperformance.com/35thvi...comparison.jpg
I'm extremely happy with the results, I went from a Camaro with a M6 and 4.10 gears, to a Silverado SS with a much heavier drivetrain (4L65E, transfer case, steel driveshaft, heavier rear end, and stock wheels/tires that weigh 90lb each) and still picked up over 20hp over the drivetrain losses. The motor was also just rebuilt and had 0 miles on it, so it should gain even more HP after it breaks in. When the Camaro was dynoed, it probably had about 15,000 miles on it.
Engine specs are in my sig.
Here is the exact same motor, but in my Camaro with an LS2 intake.
http://www.eadperformance.com/35thvideos/408dyno.jpg
and a comparison of the two side by side:
http://www.eadperformance.com/35thvi...comparison.jpg
I'm extremely happy with the results, I went from a Camaro with a M6 and 4.10 gears, to a Silverado SS with a much heavier drivetrain (4L65E, transfer case, steel driveshaft, heavier rear end, and stock wheels/tires that weigh 90lb each) and still picked up over 20hp over the drivetrain losses. The motor was also just rebuilt and had 0 miles on it, so it should gain even more HP after it breaks in. When the Camaro was dynoed, it probably had about 15,000 miles on it.
Engine specs are in my sig.
04-20-2009, 06:33 PM
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I went from a Camaro with a M6 and 4.10 gears, to a Silverado SS with a much heavier drivetrain (4L65E, transfer case, steel driveshaft, heavier rear end, and stock wheels/tires that weigh 90lb each) and still picked up over 20hp over the drivetrain losses. The motor was also just rebuilt and had 0 miles on it, so it should gain even more HP after it breaks in. When the Camaro was dynoed, it probably had about 15,000 miles on it.
Wait til the f-body crowd finds out this intake is a great performer and they are really gonna go nuts (since it won't fit their cars), lol.
04-20-2009, 08:25 PM
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damn. It is a hard thing to really compare because of all the variables that changed, but you (Tim@EADperformance) did a good job of explaining the comparison. So as you said, with the following working against it..manual tranny to an automatic, heavier driveshaft, rear end, wheels, and motor wasnt broken in....it still picked up 23hp peaking 200rpms later as well as 10lbs of torque 100rpms sooner.
Very nice!!!
I think we have a winner here, gentleman. I cant wait to see some more comparisons, especially on the same car between different intakes. Also, i want to see if it is determined that this intake can be ported to pick up more.
When its all said and done, i am betting that on a head\cam\header LS2 with all the bolt ons, this intake manifold picks up 30+hp and 20+ lbs of torque over the ls2 intake, and perhaps slightly edges out the Fast. If that does happen, i am betting many people say "ahhh, F it!" and do a lil trimming or cutting to get this intake to fit their cars. I would.
Very nice!!!
I think we have a winner here, gentleman. I cant wait to see some more comparisons, especially on the same car between different intakes. Also, i want to see if it is determined that this intake can be ported to pick up more.
When its all said and done, i am betting that on a head\cam\header LS2 with all the bolt ons, this intake manifold picks up 30+hp and 20+ lbs of torque over the ls2 intake, and perhaps slightly edges out the Fast. If that does happen, i am betting many people say "ahhh, F it!" and do a lil trimming or cutting to get this intake to fit their cars. I would.
04-20-2009, 08:52 PM
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very nice numbers !!!
im already cutting up a hood to clear the vic jr and tb and carb hat , and the amount of room im cutting in the hood should clear for this intake also
if im not happy with the vic jr , this is still my next choice
im already cutting up a hood to clear the vic jr and tb and carb hat , and the amount of room im cutting in the hood should clear for this intake also
if im not happy with the vic jr , this is still my next choice
04-20-2009, 09:48 PM
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There's plenty of material for porting. If I remember right, the intake ports were .030" smaller than my ported AFR intake ports. They would probably be very close to a standard ported head size.
Even though the company names are different on the dyno sheets, it was in fact the same dyno and the same guy doing the tuning.
I'm going back on Wednesday and going to see if I can get an overlay of the new dyno over the old dyno in the Camaro. Make for an easier comparison.
And for the price, I don't think this intake can be beat. Only problem most people will have is making it fit, but for truck or TBSS applications, it will bolt right on. Just need to slot the holes in the throttlebody as mentioned earlier in this thread.
Even though the company names are different on the dyno sheets, it was in fact the same dyno and the same guy doing the tuning.
I'm going back on Wednesday and going to see if I can get an overlay of the new dyno over the old dyno in the Camaro. Make for an easier comparison.
And for the price, I don't think this intake can be beat. Only problem most people will have is making it fit, but for truck or TBSS applications, it will bolt right on. Just need to slot the holes in the throttlebody as mentioned earlier in this thread.