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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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Well guy's, you're going to have to wait for numbers on my setup. There were some issues with the heads I have, so I'm trying to work that out as we speak. I can't, or won't, say anymore until I get things worked out, so needless to say, my build is on hold for right now.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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ah man!>..damn bro that sucks. We need you in the SNS gang!
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by stroked383HSR
ah man!>..damn bro that sucks. We need you in the SNS gang!
Don't worry, I'm not abandoning the build, it's just the heads I have now cannot be run, so I'm at the delima of going cam only or going further into my pocket to buy new heads.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 01:05 PM
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What type of Dyno was this on Martin?

I'm getting tuned on a Dyno Tract I think, not a Mustang or a DynoJet. It a weird one, they said it would be stingy with the numbers.

I'll post regardless but I'm more of a low expectations, high hopes kinda guy. I am shooting for 460 though. We'll see. I'm super pumped, it starts right up and runs like a demon.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Looks like it was a great idea for Tick to come out with a full line of Cams and they sure do deliver!

Martin, im seriously considering one of the stage 1 sns cams (223/227 or 223/231) Ive always been a fan of the smaller cams that make big power. Im looking for the maximum MIDRANGE possible without sacrificing too much PTV. Not too worried about topend (6200+) 3500-5500 is where my interest lies.

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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Well guy's, you're going to have to wait for numbers on my setup. There were some issues with the heads I have, so I'm trying to work that out as we speak. I can't, or won't, say anymore until I get things worked out, so needless to say, my build is on hold for right now.
The AFRs are no good?
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mac62989
Impressive numbers! Im in for the other results as well. It looks like your cams live up to their name.
Thank you sir! For a little cam it does make good power!
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Wow, those graphs made me all warm inside! Haha. I can't wait to see what kind of 1/4 mile times that thang will make.

Martin, how much would the hp/tq change with a smaller chamber size? What size head gasket was used?

P.S. I just received part of my tax return so you will be hearing from me very shortly!!
We used a stock .051" gasket. With a smaller chamber you could possibly crank out 10-15rwhp more. How much more will depend on the chamber size. I'd honestly keep the chamber size around 62-63cc for this cam and run a .040" gasket for added quench.
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These SNS sticks look promising, probably going to yank my T-Rex since I am daily driving the car more and want something with more mid-range and better street manners.
They would be a huge change in driving manners over your current stick! Give me a call and we can figure something up for you!
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any guess what it could possibly do?
High 11's with a driver mod!
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Well done gentleman!

I'm sitting in the waiting room right now, the beast is in the back. When the walls are shaking, power is being made. Lol

Will post results as soon as I have some..
I can't wait!!!
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With you driving, I'm guessing high 14's
OUCH!
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Well guy's, you're going to have to wait for numbers on my setup. There were some issues with the heads I have, so I'm trying to work that out as we speak. I can't, or won't, say anymore until I get things worked out, so needless to say, my build is on hold for right now.
WHAT!?!?!?! PM me and tell me the scoop.
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What type of Dyno was this on Martin?

I'm getting tuned on a Dyno Tract I think, not a Mustang or a DynoJet. It a weird one, they said it would be stingy with the numbers.

I'll post regardless but I'm more of a low expectations, high hopes kinda guy. I am shooting for 460 though. We'll see. I'm super pumped, it starts right up and runs like a demon.
Dyno Dynamics? Our dyno is a dyno jet 224XLC with a load cell we can vary like a mustang dyno.
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Looks like it was a great idea for Tick to come out with a full line of Cams and they sure do deliver!

Martin, im seriously considering one of the stage 1 sns cams (223/227 or 223/231) Ive always been a fan of the smaller cams that make big power. Im looking for the maximum MIDRANGE possible without sacrificing too much PTV. Not too worried about topend (6200+) 3500-5500 is where my interest lies.

ss3600 stall
799's with .040 gasket
ls6 intake
26" tall tires
3.73's
stock 4l60e time bomb
The SNS Stage 2 (227/235 .614"/.621" 110+3) would be my first choice, but if you wanted something slightly smaller the Stage 1 SNS (223/231 .610"/.617" 110+2) would be my second choice.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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Dyno Dynamics? Our dyno is a dyno jet 224XLC with a load cell we can vary like a mustang dyno.
Yes, it was a Dyno Dynamics. Stingy little bitch only gave me 436.5HP and 401.7TQ...lol It's all good, we don't race dyno's, and the car is an overall monster!

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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Awesome!!!! Torque Max delivers yet again!
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would you recommend a sns stage 3 for a stock ls1?
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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would you recommend a sns stage 3 for a stock ls1?
Absolutely. It would be one of my first picks for someone wanting more of a max effort cam that won't make for a peaky power curve.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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just seems like a really big cam for a stock cubed motor. i am thinking of going cam only for awhile then maybe putting on some tfs 220 as cast heads with some turned down ls3 valves later. i am also not wanting to spin my motor past 6500 rpm.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by hodge9386
just seems like a really big cam for a stock cubed motor. i am thinking of going cam only for awhile then maybe putting on some tfs 220 as cast heads with some turned down ls3 valves later. i am also not wanting to spin my motor past 6500 rpm.
In today's world of "Donkey Dick Cams", that cam is by no means "really big". Now the T-Rex, MS4, Vindicator, those are "really big" cams, but again, it boils down to what you want. Why not have Martin custom spec you a cam? That sounds like a win win to me.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hodge9386
just seems like a really big cam for a stock cubed motor. i am thinking of going cam only for awhile then maybe putting on some tfs 220 as cast heads with some turned down ls3 valves later. i am also not wanting to spin my motor past 6500 rpm.
Here is a dyno graph of the V.2 Polluter 100% "cam-only" with bolt-ons which is an even bigger cam than the SNS Stage 3. I don't think it lacks bottom end or torque at all...



The SNS Stage 3 will make even more under the curve power and peak just a hair earlier than the V.2 Polluter does.

If you want we could grind you a custom cam like Rise of The Phoenix mentioned, but I also have the Street Heat Stage 2 which is 233/240 112+2 or the SNS Stage 2 which is 231/235 111+2 if you would like a smaller cam.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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it shows on your website the sns stage 2 is a 227/235. ill more than likely go with a sns stage 3 when the time comes.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hodge9386
it shows on your website the sns stage 2 is a 227/235. ill more than likely go with a sns stage 3 when the time comes.
I think he meant the stage 2 for LS2 engine, I ordered myself a SNS Stage 3 for LS1 with mild lobes and can't wait to get it so I can put it in right away, this cam is not as big as MS3, MS4, etc. this cam have the same duration as the TR RapTR and LG G5x3 but with better lobes
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:20 AM
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make sure you post up a idle vid and your numbers when you get it in. im pretty interested in what it will sound like.
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make sure you post up a idle vid and your numbers when you get it in. im pretty interested in what it will sound like.
Most Definitely!!!
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny_02_WS6
I think he meant the stage 2 for LS2 engine, I ordered myself a SNS Stage 3 for LS1 with mild lobes and can't wait to get it so I can put it in right away, this cam is not as big as MS3, MS4, etc. this cam have the same duration as the TR RapTR and LG G5x3 but with better lobes
That's the cam I was referring to. A lot of times when I say that the cam I'm recommending is for a LS2 and the engine is a LS1 the customer will say, "I have a LS1 not a LS2, that won't work will it?" So I just have become accustomed to leaving that part out, sorry if I confused you just as bad!

The 231/235 111+2 is a great street cam with a choppy idle and an awesome power curve. The Street Heat Stage 2 (for LS2 ) is 233/240 112+2 and would be a good in between the Stage 2 SNS and the Stage 3 SNS.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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Just finished up dyno tuning this nice looking 6.0 GTO. It is running one of our Saturday Night Special series "TorqueMAX" cams. This is the Stage 2 227/235 .61x"/.62x" 110+3 version. The car has minimal bolt-ons including 1x7/8" headers, 3" catted X-pipe with 3" Magnaflow exhaust and a Vararam intake. It also has a Fast 102 intake with the stock 90mm LS2 TB.

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Sounds very tame with the Magnaflow Mufflers and cats.

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Very nice power and torque curve for stock heads and the minimal amounts of bolt-ons the car has. Without cats I'd expect it to pick up 5-10rwhp and with a larger MAF and an under-drive pulley it could pick up another 10-15rwhp there. Lots of potential for future modifications!

Main thing is it drives very well. The 6.0 soaks up the overlap and spits it out like a purring kitten. 6th gear at 55mph is not a problem at all.
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