New cams from Tick Performance
02-01-2013, 05:32 PM
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Yes it does!
you know that feeling you get when your anxiety level spikes and your heart starts racing? well I just got that! OH......MY....GOD!!!!
what have you done to my car? I was just suppose to get an oil change! ...LOL!!!!!
damn! guys we're getting close! sounds great! so far!
what have you done to my car? I was just suppose to get an oil change! ...LOL!!!!!
damn! guys we're getting close! sounds great! so far!
Hey we did change the oil though! You've got VR1 conventional in there now, the good stuff!
02-02-2013, 09:56 AM
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[QUOTE=Martin@Tick;17111225]I would put a FAST 92 or a LS6 intake on it so you don't lose any bottom end. The cam you have now I like, but I don't think it will E.T. like you want it to. I think either one of my SNS Stage 2 cams would be the way to go, but then again I don't really think you're going to see that big of a difference between the two. It might be enough, I just don't want you to be disappointed in the results. I tell customers all the time that there is no magic camshaft. If the duration and LSA is similar the difference will be small. I've seen guys go from 224/224 sized cams to T-rex sized cams and only gain 15-20rwhp.
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Im not sure man there are quiet a few guys running low 12's with a combonation similiar to mine and i figured AI 226cc are good for 40-50whp along with a ported to match fast 92 and properly sized cam to match it could be.capable of another 60rwhp all together and Thats me being stingy.
But i do agree and am well aware swapping cams will not net huge gains!
[quote=Bumpstix;17110796]
Im not sure man there are quiet a few guys running low 12's with a combonation similiar to mine and i figured AI 226cc are good for 40-50whp along with a ported to match fast 92 and properly sized cam to match it could be.capable of another 60rwhp all together and Thats me being stingy.
But i do agree and am well aware swapping cams will not net huge gains!
02-02-2013, 10:00 AM
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On a side note Martin,
What so you think about AI's worked over RHS/dart heads over there 226cc 243 program? I can sell my 243's for pretty much the difference of The RHS heads but is there more power to be made? PTV is also an issue since Im trying to get near 12:1 compression.
What so you think about AI's worked over RHS/dart heads over there 226cc 243 program? I can sell my 243's for pretty much the difference of The RHS heads but is there more power to be made? PTV is also an issue since Im trying to get near 12:1 compression.
02-02-2013, 10:18 AM
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On a side note Martin,
What so you think about AI's worked over RHS/dart heads over there 226cc 243 program? I can sell my 243's for pretty much the difference of The RHS heads but is there more power to be made? PTV is also an issue since Im trying to get near 12:1 compression.
What so you think about AI's worked over RHS/dart heads over there 226cc 243 program? I can sell my 243's for pretty much the difference of The RHS heads but is there more power to be made? PTV is also an issue since Im trying to get near 12:1 compression.
02-02-2013, 11:03 AM
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Hell i havint even ran this combo and Im already making plans for v2!
02-02-2013, 12:04 PM
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Hmm i would say 10rwhp is worth it for me since the price differrence will be the same wheb i sell my 243's. Also it being an aftermarket casting head with thicker deck is also a huge plus! I will get with Phil once i am ready to pull the trigger on a set of heads.
Hell i havint even ran this combo and Im already making plans for v2!
Hell i havint even ran this combo and Im already making plans for v2!
02-02-2013, 01:32 PM
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[QUOTE=slowlsx;17113428][QUOTE=Martin@Tick;17111225]I would put a FAST 92 or a LS6 intake on it so you don't lose any bottom end. The cam you have now I like, but I don't think it will E.T. like you want it to. I think either one of my SNS Stage 2 cams would be the way to go, but then again I don't really think you're going to see that big of a difference between the two. It might be enough, I just don't want you to be disappointed in the results. I tell customers all the time that there is no magic camshaft. If the duration and LSA is similar the difference will be small. I've seen guys go from 224/224 sized cams to T-rex sized cams and only gain 15-20rwhp.
Im not sure man there are quiet a few guys running low 12's with a combonation similiar to mine and i figured AI 226cc are good for 40-50whp along with a ported to match fast 92 and properly sized cam to match it could be.capable of another 60rwhp all together and Thats me being stingy.
But i do agree and am well aware swapping cams will not net huge gains! I do think it can run quite fast, it's a matter of how big do you really want to go? I think that a custom cam would be our best bet in your case honestly. What I would also do is go with a 219-220cc volume intake port. It will create more low-end and mid-range which is critical with your combination to get it moving. I can then stretch the cam timing events to take advantage of that added torque and turn it into horsepower with overlap and longer events.
I don't have a shelf cam that I like the looks of for your more unique combination and you're going to have to fly-cut. When you do though we can get **** nasty with the stick. Here's what I would recommend:
235/242 .621"/.592" 110+2
That cam should make rediculous torque with the smaller 220c port and 12.0:1 compression. I really wish you would fly-cut though so I could grind this stick to put in there. A smaller cylinder head with a shorter stroke like we have in this sitiuation loves overlap and longer duration which is why I do the torque max cams like I do with the added overlap and longer exhaust duration. The small port works better with a strong overlap signal pulling on the intake port via the exhaust port.
I think I pretty much answered this question above. I don't think it would matter much between the two, but if the RHS head is worth power and the prices are equal I would go with the RHS casting no doubt.
Im not sure man there are quiet a few guys running low 12's with a combonation similiar to mine and i figured AI 226cc are good for 40-50whp along with a ported to match fast 92 and properly sized cam to match it could be.capable of another 60rwhp all together and Thats me being stingy.
But i do agree and am well aware swapping cams will not net huge gains!
I don't have a shelf cam that I like the looks of for your more unique combination and you're going to have to fly-cut. When you do though we can get **** nasty with the stick. Here's what I would recommend:
235/242 .621"/.592" 110+2
That cam should make rediculous torque with the smaller 220c port and 12.0:1 compression. I really wish you would fly-cut though so I could grind this stick to put in there. A smaller cylinder head with a shorter stroke like we have in this sitiuation loves overlap and longer duration which is why I do the torque max cams like I do with the added overlap and longer exhaust duration. The small port works better with a strong overlap signal pulling on the intake port via the exhaust port.
On a side note Martin,
What so you think about AI's worked over RHS/dart heads over there 226cc 243 program? I can sell my 243's for pretty much the difference of The RHS heads but is there more power to be made? PTV is also an issue since Im trying to get near 12:1 compression.
What so you think about AI's worked over RHS/dart heads over there 226cc 243 program? I can sell my 243's for pretty much the difference of The RHS heads but is there more power to be made? PTV is also an issue since Im trying to get near 12:1 compression.
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02-03-2013, 08:04 PM
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LOL@ eats kittens LMAO!
Your car always impressed me with the time its able to run for what it dyno'd and with your gear, weight, low compression and from what you have said lightly ported heads. I still think with a little work to the 60 foot and 330 you can go low 11's and damn near 7.0 in the eighth. You already went 7.40's at 94mph iirc. Goes to show dynos and autos dont agree.
I've got a buddy with a bad *** ls2 in a 3400-3500lb. 3rd gen, tfs as cast heads, 235/243 112+3 cam, fast intake with a stalled auto and it made 420ish rwhp locked, but runs 6.90's@99mph with a 1.5x 60'.
I'm trying to get it to run better in Speed density, but i know you've seen my other thread about not being able to get the VE table right lol, and yeah it went 7.45 when i ran that 11.73 and now im down to 7.43 at 93.91 with a slower 60ft, so i guess it's on the right track somewhat
Your car always impressed me with the time its able to run for what it dyno'd and with your gear, weight, low compression and from what you have said lightly ported heads. I still think with a little work to the 60 foot and 330 you can go low 11's and damn near 7.0 in the eighth. You already went 7.40's at 94mph iirc. Goes to show dynos and autos dont agree.
I've got a buddy with a bad *** ls2 in a 3400-3500lb. 3rd gen, tfs as cast heads, 235/243 112+3 cam, fast intake with a stalled auto and it made 420ish rwhp locked, but runs 6.90's@99mph with a 1.5x 60'.
I'm trying to get it to run better in Speed density, but i know you've seen my other thread about not being able to get the VE table right lol, and yeah it went 7.45 when i ran that 11.73 and now im down to 7.43 at 93.91 with a slower 60ft, so i guess it's on the right track somewhat
02-04-2013, 07:37 AM
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Stock LS6 intake, UD pulley, 1x7/8" Edelbrock headers, ORY, Borla Cat-back, PRC 5.3 heads@63cc, Stage 2 "SNS" cam and 200k miles!!!
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Check out that power curve....flat for days! Really lives up to the Torque Max name! I know the numbers could be higher with a bigger cam and this and that, but guys think about this. This is a DD car, it has 200k miles on it and spinning it higher with a bigger cam along with the loss in driving manners would be a step in the wrong direction for what the combination really needs. The car drives great, it makes average power for DAYS and never stops pulling once it starts! This is something you can drive wherever you want, whenever you want and embarrass other cars with much bigger cams.
It will be very interesting to see the difference in FEAR LS results with his TEA Stage 2 heads and Fast intake with the same compression and cam as Stroked383's along with Rise of The Phoenix's results with his AFR 205's with more compression, the same cam and a LS6 intake also.
Enjoy!
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Check out that power curve....flat for days! Really lives up to the Torque Max name! I know the numbers could be higher with a bigger cam and this and that, but guys think about this. This is a DD car, it has 200k miles on it and spinning it higher with a bigger cam along with the loss in driving manners would be a step in the wrong direction for what the combination really needs. The car drives great, it makes average power for DAYS and never stops pulling once it starts! This is something you can drive wherever you want, whenever you want and embarrass other cars with much bigger cams.
It will be very interesting to see the difference in FEAR LS results with his TEA Stage 2 heads and Fast intake with the same compression and cam as Stroked383's along with Rise of The Phoenix's results with his AFR 205's with more compression, the same cam and a LS6 intake also.
Enjoy!
02-04-2013, 11:51 AM
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Wow, those graphs made me all warm inside! Haha. I can't wait to see what kind of 1/4 mile times that thang will make.
Martin, how much would the hp/tq change with a smaller chamber size? What size head gasket was used?
P.S. I just received part of my tax return so you will be hearing from me very shortly!!
Martin, how much would the hp/tq change with a smaller chamber size? What size head gasket was used?
P.S. I just received part of my tax return so you will be hearing from me very shortly!!
02-04-2013, 12:39 PM
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Well done gentleman!
I'm sitting in the waiting room right now, the beast is in the back. When the walls are shaking, power is being made. Lol
Will post results as soon as I have some..
I'm sitting in the waiting room right now, the beast is in the back. When the walls are shaking, power is being made. Lol
Will post results as soon as I have some..
