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Old 08-11-2014, 12:55 PM
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Anybody here using Livernois heads? I've looked but didn't find much, mainly AI, TEA, or PRC. How does Livernois compare?
I'm looking to either send my heads to AI or pick up a set of Livernois Stg 2 heads. Looking for some real world experience and opinions.
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Here are a few I found.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...d-results.html

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...st-tuning.html

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...cam-graph.html

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...m-results.html
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Those Stage III results are good. If the guy who installed them had milled down to like 60cc with that cam, he would have been around 460rwhp with 1-3/4" headers a 230 cam. Pretty damn good. Going to a slightly bigger cam, flycutting, milling down to 58 or 59cc, and running a 1-7/8" header likely would have seen 480+rwhp.
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I just installed a set of livernois stage III LS6 heads. I was very impressed with the quality of the heads. I will be getting it tuned next week.
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Yeah, the stage III heads look pretty good, but for the money for those I'd probably go with some Trick flow as cast heads. I was hoping there would be more people with the stage 2 heads. Maybe in the $1500 or less price range AI or TEA is the way to go...
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Trick Flow As Cast heads would be a great buy for you. Just make sure you have the heads milled so you can achieve a higher compression, which will equate to better throttle response and more HP/TQ throughout the RPM band. A custom cam with those heads and a FAST intake/TB would be nice. Just make sure you have all the supporting mods first, like long tube headers and exhaust.
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Thanks Rise. I have a cam motion 230/234 612/595, 111+4 cam, Victor Jr Intake and 750 hp carb.
It runs great but like everone else, I'm always looking for more...

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i would call each company and ask flow #'s , what type of parts they use springs valves , retainers the compare prices. i like the best bang for the buck , not the mercedes of whatever.
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All of the websites for each of these vendors has that information on there. At the end of the day, the HP/TQ difference between Livernois, TEA, WCCH, AI, etc. is going to be minimal.
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Originally Posted by DANOZ28
i would call each company and ask flow #'s , what type of parts they use springs valves , retainers the compare prices. i like the best bang for the buck , not the mercedes of whatever.
Definetly looking for the best bang for the buck but without going too cheap. I'll spend the money if needed but I want results for the money spent.
With everything I've read and researched, I'll probably go with AI at this point.
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Any of those heads are great. Put your time and thought into getting as much compression as your fuel will allow, get a custom cam designed around whatever heads you get, decide if you want to flucut to optimize the setup, make sure your injectors/fuel system is up to snuff, make sure you have the correct stall converter or rear gearing, make sure the valve train is setup right, etc. Those are the kind of things that can make or break a build. Too many times people buy ultra bad *** heads and throw **** parts at them and then wonder why the setup sucked ***. Others have what many would call "shitty" heads, but have a well thought out combo with good matching parts that makes killer power. I think too often people forget about the entire combo and get caught up on single parts. It's all about the combo. If you look at any NA build on here that puts out impressive dyno numbers and lays down fast ET's, they all have one thing in common. A well thought out combo of great parts that work together to produce the numbers.

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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Any of those heads are great. Put your time and thought into getting as much compression as your fuel will allow, get a custom cam designed around whatever heads you get, decide if you want to flucut to optimize the setup, make sure your injectors/fuel system is up to snuff, make sure you have the correct stall converter or rear gearing, make sure the valve train is setup right, etc. Those are the kind of things that can make or break a build. Too many times people buy ultra bad *** heads and throw **** parts at them and then wonder why the setup sucked ***. Others have what many would call "shitty" heads, but have a well thought out combo with good matching parts that makes killer power. I think too often people forget about the entire combo and get caught up on single parts. It's all about the combo. If you look at any NA build on here that puts out impressive dyno numbers and lays down fast ET's, they all have one thing in common. A well thought out combo of great parts that work together to produce the numbers.
This, ***** and all.
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I bought the Stage 3's back in '06 and had good results

Independent flow #'s
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...w-s-local.html
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Nice to see some independent flow numbers cdubbzz. I wish I'd have done that with the heads I have.
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AI will weld chambers too... if you don't want to mill. 317 heads are cheap and havd ls6 ports, they will get my business soon.
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I ordered up some Livernois stage II heads today, didn't want any down time. We'll see how it goes....
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Let us know how they work out for you. As long as you got the supporting parts, I'm sure they will be killer.
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Hopefully with the cam motion cam, victor jr intake, and 750 carb it will run pretty well. It runs pretty good now as is.
Hopefully these heads are as good as livernois talks them up to be. I really wanted to go AI but didn't want the downtime. 6-8 weeks out. Plus, livernois is a little easier to get in touch with if there's any problems.
I'll update once I receive the heads.
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I have stage 3 h/c 615 lift 470hp to the wheels. They do great work. Pm me and I can talk more.


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