Results with ETP heads.
Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive
Not gonna happen. I can tell you where you can get this camshaft but I am not going to doll out the specs. To put it mildly its healthy. Secondly that is just mythology there is a head/cam C6 LS2 car running around with 225 ETP heads just recently that made well over 460hp on this dyno.LOST 20hp with the FAST intake.Seems to be trend with all sort of combos My accoutnatn lost 20hp on his car when he switched to a FAST and he had Patriot heads and a TSP camshaft.
You keep saying you lost power with the FAST. My question is this: Compared to what other intake did you lose power??????
Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive
Oddly enough the LS6 intake.
MAF frequency for a CL tune or VE table for OL tune?
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Originally Posted by 2c5s
You keep saying you lost power with the FAST. My question is this: Compared to what other intake did you lose power??????
If that's the case, then I think you have other issues and it's not the intake.
Originally Posted by 2c5s
You keep saying you lost power with the FAST. My question is this: Compared to what other intake did you lose power??????
Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive
Oddly enough the LS6 intake.
If that's the case, then I think you have other issues and it's not the intake.
Originally Posted by 2c5s
If that's the case, then I think you have other issues and it's not the intake.
Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
We just put down 460rwhp through and LS6 intake, MS3 (237/242 .603 .609 113LSA), PRC stage 2.5 5.3L heads (1199 assembled 
)
We are swapping the FAST 90/90 onto the car today, I will post up the GAINS and disprove this immediately.
Thank You.
) We are swapping the FAST 90/90 onto the car today, I will post up the GAINS and disprove this immediately.
Thank You.
-Geoff
Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
We just put down 460rwhp through and LS6 intake, MS3 (237/242 .603 .609 113LSA), PRC stage 2.5 5.3L heads (1199 assembled )
We are swapping the FAST 90/90 onto the car today, I will post up the GAINS and disprove this immediately.
We had a fast 90/90 pick up over 30 on a 98 H/C car last week coming from the LS1 manifold.
Thank You.
) We are swapping the FAST 90/90 onto the car today, I will post up the GAINS and disprove this immediately.
We had a fast 90/90 pick up over 30 on a 98 H/C car last week coming from the LS1 manifold.
Thank You.
Christian
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Is this guy serious? you might not gain power with a FAST intake if your not pulling hard enough on the manifold, but your not going to lose 20 hp vs a LS6 on a healthy heads/cam setup. Wave action bedamned.
The only reason why you might lose hp with the FAST is if you left the stock valley cover bolts in and made a hella vacuum leak when you bolted the intake down!
The only reason why you might lose hp with the FAST is if you left the stock valley cover bolts in and made a hella vacuum leak when you bolted the intake down!
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
Is this guy serious? you might not gain power with a FAST intake if your not pulling hard enough on the manifold, but your not going to lose 20 hp vs a LS6 on a healthy heads/cam setup. Wave action bedamned.
The only reason why you might lose hp with the FAST is if you left the stock valley cover bolts in and made a hella vacuum leak when you bolted the intake down!
The only reason why you might lose hp with the FAST is if you left the stock valley cover bolts in and made a hella vacuum leak when you bolted the intake down!
Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
We just put down 460rwhp through and LS6 intake, MS3 (237/242 .603 .609 113LSA), PRC stage 2.5 5.3L heads (1199 assembled )
We are swapping the FAST 90/90 onto the car today, I will post up the GAINS and disprove this immediately.
Thank You.
) We are swapping the FAST 90/90 onto the car today, I will post up the GAINS and disprove this immediately.
Thank You.
According to your post # 74 you were suppose to post the results of your Dyno test in TSP with the FAST 90 swap over the LS6 one two days ago....
Does your silence means that you have some bad numbers recorded from the swap of intake to share with us???
Christian
Nope, I've been sick for the past few days and havent had the energy to get out there and do it, im working but with a fever as well. The intake box also doesnt have the valley cover bolts to do the swap, I will post up a graph as soon as we can. Hopefully I'll find some this weekend and get it on the dyno when we get some time.
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Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
Nope, I've been sick for the past few days and havent had the energy to get out there and do it, im working but with a fever as well. The intake box also doesnt have the valley cover bolts to do the swap, I will post up a graph as soon as we can. Hopefully I'll find some this weekend and get it on the dyno when we get some time.
I'll just chime in here a bit. I'm Seans CPA. He has worked on my car on several occasions. The first time Sean worked on my car was for the problem I had after putting on the FAST 90 and the NW tb. Had a difficult time getting the car to idle. He tuned and tuned and we finally got the car to idle pretty good. Sean dyno'd the car and on his mustang, it dyno'd at 398 hp and I don't remember the tq. Prior to changing the fast, I had the factory LS6 manifold on the car. You can see in the sig what mods have been made to the engine. H/C and headers mostly. There is a dyno shop in Sterling Heights that dyno's a majority of Chryslers Vipers, Chargers, etc. Chrysler keeps coming back and Ford has even been to their shop for dyno use. That is all they do, dyno, no tuning, just dyno. They have a dynojet. Prior to changing the LS6 to the FAST90, I had the car dyno'd on their dynojet. It dyno'd 416 to 425 hp. There were 3 pulls and it ranged from 416 to 425. CHanged to the FAST 90 and Sean dyno's the car at 398. Again, that was on his Mustang. That is the only changes that have been made on this car from the late summer 2004 until about 4 weeks ago and I go back over there. The car has an additional 6000 miles on it. Again, the only change is the FAST 90 and the NW tb. This time the car dyno's (on the same dynojet) 396, 398. It lost 20 hp. There is no vacum leak. Again, that is the only change, nothing else has changed on the engine. I have some serious doubts about the FAST 90.
Now to some peoples credit on this board, it has been said to determine the hp at the track. Prior to putting the FAST 90 on it, the best the car ran NA was in the 12.50's. This was at Lapeer and anybody who has run at that track knows it sucks. We just went back up there 2 weeks ago and the car ran a best of 12.265 with no VHT on the track and spinning like hell launching. It was also pulling at the top lilke it had never pulled before. So in that case, I think the FAST did improve the performance. It just lost horsepower and torque. Some will say "what was the temp on both days" Well the first time when it dyno'd 416 to 425 it was 67 degrees. The second time it was in the high 40's low 50's. So it really should have been better the second time.
Now to some peoples credit on this board, it has been said to determine the hp at the track. Prior to putting the FAST 90 on it, the best the car ran NA was in the 12.50's. This was at Lapeer and anybody who has run at that track knows it sucks. We just went back up there 2 weeks ago and the car ran a best of 12.265 with no VHT on the track and spinning like hell launching. It was also pulling at the top lilke it had never pulled before. So in that case, I think the FAST did improve the performance. It just lost horsepower and torque. Some will say "what was the temp on both days" Well the first time when it dyno'd 416 to 425 it was 67 degrees. The second time it was in the high 40's low 50's. So it really should have been better the second time.
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Originally Posted by SS125
I'll just chime in here a bit. I'm Seans CPA. He has worked on my car on several occasions. The first time Sean worked on my car was for the problem I had after putting on the FAST 90 and the NW tb. Had a difficult time getting the car to idle. He tuned and tuned and we finally got the car to idle pretty good. Sean dyno'd the car and on his mustang, it dyno'd at 398 hp and I don't remember the tq. Prior to changing the fast, I had the factory LS6 manifold on the car. You can see in the sig what mods have been made to the engine. H/C and headers mostly. There is a dyno shop in Sterling Heights that dyno's a majority of Chryslers Vipers, Chargers, etc. Chrysler keeps coming back and Ford has even been to their shop for dyno use. That is all they do, dyno, no tuning, just dyno. They have a dynojet. Prior to changing the LS6 to the FAST90, I had the car dyno'd on their dynojet. It dyno'd 416 to 425 hp. There were 3 pulls and it ranged from 416 to 425. CHanged to the FAST 90 and Sean dyno's the car at 398. Again, that was on his Mustang. That is the only changes that have been made on this car from the late summer 2004 until about 4 weeks ago and I go back over there. The car has an additional 6000 miles on it. Again, the only change is the FAST 90 and the NW tb. This time the car dyno's (on the same dynojet) 396, 398. It lost 20 hp. There is no vacum leak. Again, that is the only change, nothing else has changed on the engine. I have some serious doubts about the FAST 90.
Now to some peoples credit on this board, it has been said to determine the hp at the track. Prior to putting the FAST 90 on it, the best the car ran NA was in the 12.50's. This was at Lapeer and anybody who has run at that track knows it sucks. We just went back up there 2 weeks ago and the car ran a best of 12.265 with no VHT on the track and spinning like hell launching. It was also pulling at the top lilke it had never pulled before. So in that case, I think the FAST did improve the performance. It just lost horsepower and torque. Some will say "what was the temp on both days" Well the first time when it dyno'd 416 to 425 it was 67 degrees. The second time it was in the high 40's low 50's. So it really should have been better the second time.
Now to some peoples credit on this board, it has been said to determine the hp at the track. Prior to putting the FAST 90 on it, the best the car ran NA was in the 12.50's. This was at Lapeer and anybody who has run at that track knows it sucks. We just went back up there 2 weeks ago and the car ran a best of 12.265 with no VHT on the track and spinning like hell launching. It was also pulling at the top lilke it had never pulled before. So in that case, I think the FAST did improve the performance. It just lost horsepower and torque. Some will say "what was the temp on both days" Well the first time when it dyno'd 416 to 425 it was 67 degrees. The second time it was in the high 40's low 50's. So it really should have been better the second time.
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Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
I'm looking for a used FAST 90/90. Is there a chance that Collin's Automotive could hook me up? Or maybe you guys know someone selling one. Let me know. Thanks
