Results with ETP heads.
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Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive
Hmm maybe you have somehow managed to Miss the beggining of the post where i actually Post up the AB test results from the FAST intake to the LS6. It lost power.
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Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive
About 45minutes away.Snoop around on some of the local detroit boards I am not hard to find.
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Last edited by Ragtop 99; Nov 23, 2006 at 01:38 PM. Reason: Non-sponsor contact info
Not that my shop is a huge world renouned place.... but this guy's place proably isn't any bigger then my garage 
Collinsautomotive.. you have a bad fast intake, have your only current customer pissed off at you, and are trying to figure out what the problem is.. please just come clean.
Collinsautomotive.. you have a bad fast intake, have your only current customer pissed off at you, and are trying to figure out what the problem is.. please just come clean.
Originally Posted by LSX-Racer
Collins Automotive Repair Serv
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Last edited by Ragtop 99; Nov 23, 2006 at 01:39 PM.
Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Then,why are you guy's the only one not gaining HP/TQ?Your #'s are good but not huge by any means.It seams like you are trying FAST setup's on alot of cars from the sound of it.
On a dynojet my car puts down 430ishRWHP 410RWTQ. So, you can see by the difference in numbers that while the number may not seem huge. When you look at the graph and see over 400RWHP & TQ you are talking big numbers on others dyno.
Thanks,
Bill
Yes this dyno reads low, just look at my numbers. Those were with a failing fuel pump and slipping converter but I don't imagine it'd be too much higher. As it is I'm trying to get him my FAST intake to do some testing.
Originally Posted by Bill'sWS6
Let me give you an idea of the dyno we are talking about. My car put down 360RWHP and like 310RWTQ on this dyno. It is VERY Stingy to say the least!
On a dynojet my car puts down 430ishRWHP 410RWTQ. So, you can see by the difference in numbers that while the number may not seem huge. When you look at the graph and see over 400RWHP & TQ you are talking big numbers on others dyno.
Thanks,
Bill
On a dynojet my car puts down 430ishRWHP 410RWTQ. So, you can see by the difference in numbers that while the number may not seem huge. When you look at the graph and see over 400RWHP & TQ you are talking big numbers on others dyno.
Thanks,
Bill
Dood your sig it says your car puts down 400RWHP/379RWTQ, and runs 12.1 @ 111
Im not saying your not telling the truth but ..... I can only go by info provided
Last edited by offaxis; Nov 23, 2006 at 10:37 AM.
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My observation is that these discusssions compare a stock-throttle bodied LS6 vs. a 90 mm FAST. Seems to me that the larger FAST throttle body should trump any stock LS6. Has anyone compared a FAST with a LS6 modified to accept a 90mm throttle body?
I have a CTS-V with a TPIS-modified LS6 manifold using a ported LS2 throttle body, with a very nice power increase vs. ported stock TB and LS6. TPIS claims they picked up about 18 rwhp with this change on a CTS-V with headers and cold air intake.
Perhaps a more fair comparison would be a FAST 90 vs a LS6 90.
I have a CTS-V with a TPIS-modified LS6 manifold using a ported LS2 throttle body, with a very nice power increase vs. ported stock TB and LS6. TPIS claims they picked up about 18 rwhp with this change on a CTS-V with headers and cold air intake.
Perhaps a more fair comparison would be a FAST 90 vs a LS6 90.
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Originally Posted by offaxis
Dood your sig it says your car puts down 400RWHP/379RWTQ, and runs 12.1 @ 111
Your car is super slow for 430 hp on a dynojet..
Im not saying your not telling the truth but ..... I can only go by info provided
Your car is super slow for 430 hp on a dynojet..
Im not saying your not telling the truth but ..... I can only go by info provided
12.1 was before the car was tuned. I will be going to the track tomorrow. I will see what the new numbers produce.
And for the people that are laughing at Collins Automotive you know nothing about them. Just because you dig up a some stuff on the internet about how big the shop is means nothing. I would put Seans tuning abilities up against anyones.
I had my car tuned by Sean. Funny that other big name shops could not get my car running right, tune wise. Idle and suge control, plus power and driveability were not that great. Sean tuned my car and ended up picking up nice gains and MPG numbers too.
I know plenty of people that have had there cars done by Sean and have had GREAT results. I am not a mechanic so I can't add anything about the Fast discussion. I do know for a fact that Sean (Collins Auto) knows how to tune and build some very nice cars. I know of several people that have had their car tuned by shops and end up over at Sean's because they are not happy. He has a great rep for getting nice additional gains when he tunes.
No, Sean is not a good friend of mine. He just did some VERY nice work for me on my car.
Bill
Originally Posted by Detroitmuscle
Yes this dyno reads low, just look at my numbers. Those were with a failing fuel pump and slipping converter but I don't imagine it'd be too much higher. As it is I'm trying to get him my FAST intake to do some testing.
Thanks.
Bill
Originally Posted by Bill'sWS6
Wow, my numbers are almost identical to yours. Can you PM me or post any track times so far. I am heading to Lapeer Saturday to test out the new setup.
Thanks.
Bill
Thanks.
Bill
Bill defintly post up those track numbers. I might not agree about the fast intake loosing power but It is good to hear you are happy with them . .
Originally Posted by LSX-Racer
Collins Automotive Repair Serv
Waterford, MI, United States
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My car was originally tuned by a well known shop in TX, Very Nice Looking.
Shity Tune! The timing tables were so bad it was sick. When you line graphed the timing it looked like a soup spoon. So, you go ahead and base your selection on the biggest shop, that will make you much faster.
Last edited by Ragtop 99; Nov 23, 2006 at 01:41 PM.
Originally Posted by offaxis
Bill defintly post up those track numbers. I might not agree about the fast intake loosing power but It is good to hear you are happy with them . .
I'll do that. I can't complain when my dyno jet numbers are 430RWHP (tuned by Sean) and the car is only running a 224/224/563 on a 114 (thunder racing cam).
Those are healthy numbers for such a small cam in my opinion
By the way, your car and mine are the same color I think, got to love that color!
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrow...der_id=1713718
I will post up my numbers Saturday afternoon.
Originally Posted by Rey Kirkman
My observation is that these discusssions compare a stock-throttle bodied LS6 vs. a 90 mm FAST. Seems to me that the larger FAST throttle body should trump any stock LS6. Has anyone compared a FAST with a LS6 modified to accept a 90mm throttle body?
I have a CTS-V with a TPIS-modified LS6 manifold using a ported LS2 throttle body, with a very nice power increase vs. ported stock TB and LS6. TPIS claims they picked up about 18 rwhp with this change on a CTS-V with headers and cold air intake.
Perhaps a more fair comparison would be a FAST 90 vs a LS6 90.
I have a CTS-V with a TPIS-modified LS6 manifold using a ported LS2 throttle body, with a very nice power increase vs. ported stock TB and LS6. TPIS claims they picked up about 18 rwhp with this change on a CTS-V with headers and cold air intake.
Perhaps a more fair comparison would be a FAST 90 vs a LS6 90.
Any before and after numbers or track times? If not, well, not very valid.
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Oh look you found our liscense filing info.How sweet. This means what ?You do realize in Michigan to run an autorepair shop you have to project your earning for your liscening fees.We opened last fall and only had one quarter in so that the income statement that the state wants. You prove nothing.Fact is its a 3bay shop and if you would like to come by sometime feel free.I didn't come on here pretending to be something I am not. I posted up some dyno results from a Head Cam car with ETP heads and We got into this discussion on the FAST intake.
Nice to see the Mature behavoir though.
Nice to see the Mature behavoir though.
Originally Posted by LSX-Racer
Collins Automotive Repair Serv
Waterford, MI, United States
Phone:
SIC: Automotive Repair Shops, NEC
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Collins Automotive Repair Serv - Detailed Company Profile
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Waterford, MI, United States
Phone:
SIC: Automotive Repair Shops, NEC
Line of business: Automotive Repair
Collins Automotive Repair Serv - Detailed Company Profile
Year Started: N/A
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Est. Annual Sales: $46,000
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Last edited by Ragtop 99; Nov 23, 2006 at 01:42 PM.
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Originally Posted by Rey Kirkman
My observation is that these discusssions compare a stock-throttle bodied LS6 vs. a 90 mm FAST. Seems to me that the larger FAST throttle body should trump any stock LS6. Has anyone compared a FAST with a LS6 modified to accept a 90mm throttle body?
I have a CTS-V with a TPIS-modified LS6 manifold using a ported LS2 throttle body, with a very nice power increase vs. ported stock TB and LS6. TPIS claims they picked up about 18 rwhp with this change on a CTS-V with headers and cold air intake.
Perhaps a more fair comparison would be a FAST 90 vs a LS6 90.
I have a CTS-V with a TPIS-modified LS6 manifold using a ported LS2 throttle body, with a very nice power increase vs. ported stock TB and LS6. TPIS claims they picked up about 18 rwhp with this change on a CTS-V with headers and cold air intake.
Perhaps a more fair comparison would be a FAST 90 vs a LS6 90.
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Originally Posted by Bill'sWS6
Wow, my numbers are almost identical to yours. Can you PM me or post any track times so far. I am heading to Lapeer Saturday to test out the new setup.
Thanks.
Bill
Thanks.
Bill
Originally Posted by Bill'sWS6
My car was originally tuned by a well known shop in TX, Very Nice Looking.
Shity Tune! The timing tables were so bad it was sick. When you line graphed the timing it looked like a soup spoon. So, you go ahead and base your selection on the biggest shop, that will make you much faster.
Shity Tune! The timing tables were so bad it was sick. When you line graphed the timing it looked like a soup spoon. So, you go ahead and base your selection on the biggest shop, that will make you much faster.
Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
Mail order tune or on their dyno?
It was tuned with the current cam/head and intake setup that is on the car now. Only difference is the car now makes about 40RWHP more than it did when tuned in TX. Nothing has changed motor wise, apples to apples.
Bill
I completly agree with Bill, Sean is a very standup guy and has always been honest and up front with me, if there was a problem he'd fix it right away. My car as it sits runs near perfect and I'm very pleased with his tuning abilities and have seen the other customers that come to his shop.