Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive

Oh look you found our liscense filing info.How sweet. This means what ?You do realize in Michigan to run an autorepair shop you have to project your earning for your liscening fees.We opened last fall and only had one quarter in so that the income statement that the state wants. You prove nothing.Fact is its a 3bay shop and if you would like to come by sometime feel free.I didn't come on here pretending to be something I am not. I posted up some dyno results from a Head Cam car with ETP heads and We got into this discussion on the FAST intake.

Nice to see the Mature behavoir though.

Originally Posted by CHarris

Collinsauto -

Did you adjust any of the engine diagnostics tables relating to airflow error? I've seen issues with those tables personally. In my experience more airflow can hurt power unless those are adjusted.

Originally Posted by LSX-Racer

Excuse me but you stated to look you up. I did and posted the address. You must have some kind of inferiority or guilt complex if you believe this contributed in any way to a negative comment or slander. Maybe your response to the post speaks volumes of your behavior but the post was to bring out what you said to do.

Now I've been to quite a few NHRA Pro Stock engine shops and most are one man shops with some serious power going out of those doors. People like Charlie Weston, Al Neal and Bob Ingles do some very nice work for one man shops. Many NMRA Pro Stock and NEXTEL Cup "big dawgs" use their services.

Sorry if you can't deal with the post, but you have the issue, not me.

Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS

Hmm, better flowing intake loses power...well to continue along those lines then maybe everyone should toss on worse flowing heads and smaller cams...then we will make amazing numbers! Sorry man couldnt resist but maybe you just got a batch of defective fast intakes?

Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive

Not gonna happen. I can tell you where you can get this camshaft but I am not going to doll out the specs. To put it mildly its healthy. Secondly that is just mythology there is a head/cam C6 LS2 car running around with 225 ETP heads just recently that made well over 460hp on this dyno.LOST 20hp with the FAST intake.Seems to be trend with all sort of combos My accoutnatn lost 20hp on his car when he switched to a FAST and he had Patriot heads and a TSP camshaft.

Originally Posted by choppin-suey

I cant believe you wont even post numbers at .500? also is that thing a dyno queen or does it actually run, we got a shop in Md that puts out silly mustang dyno numbers and there is another shop with a mustang dyno that puts out lower side dyno numbers, me I go to the lower one but 465 to the wheels got me 10.3 n/a(3680pounds)

Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive

No its actually a road racing car. I am trying to setup a early spring track session. I am expecting low 11's high 10's but it will be driver dependent.Stick shift cars are funny about going down the 1/4 and unfortunately I am not one of those gifted manual drivers. I am seriously thinking low 11's with an average driver should be doable. With a very very good driver i figure very high 10's in a very streetable car. It has already made on pass and went 121 slipping on the 60ft like a banshy but bieng as the track was pretty damn greasy due to the rain and cold weather it will have to wait for better weather come late spring.

Originally Posted by LSX-Racer

Excuse me but you stated to look you up. I did and posted the address. You must have some kind of inferiority or guilt complex if you believe this contributed in any way to a negative comment or slander. Maybe your response to the post speaks volumes of your behavior but the post was to bring out what you said to do

Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive

Don't try to retract you statments now. You deliberatly came on here posting that info in a blatant attempt to discredit me and my shop. Its was a BS move. I called you on it and now you want to act like I am being dfensive. the reason I told someone else to look me up off board had more to do with Me not being a sponsor and not engaging in commercial type activity here.

Originally Posted by 1BADAIR

Hey sean/ss125
If/when you guys do that A-B test could we swap his 90 with my ls6 and put his 90 on my 383(don't have etp heads) to see the differance.

Originally Posted by Phil99vette

I'd like to see the cam specs so we know what to stay away from...

Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR

This thread is so painful I cant stop watching it....(pathetic I know...)

Here is a recent (last night) correspondance with a customer I sent a ported FAST 90 to....I was just following up inquiring about his results. Unfortunately no dyno numbers yet but I'm sure at some point he will get there and hopefully share the #'s with all of us when he does. He is a member of this board but I didnt want to drag him in or have him feel obligated to post, although I'm fairly certain he will when the appropriate time comes.

Anyway....here is a copy of a few quick emails we shared back and forth. Note my questions are on the bottom....his replies up above.



Our next correspondance....



And our last correspondance....



The way I look at it Keith Wilson knows a thing or two about manifolds.....he's arguably the best in the business or certainly one of. Most of the work I perform to them simply handles a lot of the issues manufacturing a 3 piece plastic intake can create (core shift, panel misalignment, etc.)....while some of the mods I do you wouldn't have wanted to try and cast that way. Bottom line, I have done quite a bit of my own R&D to ultimately arrive at the shape I did, but I am not reinventing the wheel when I port one of these units. I am probably just making it closer to the way their prototype might have been that this deal was cast around....with a few modifications of my own thrown in. Just as sure as Sean (Collins) is convinced a FAST intake doesn't work, I am that confident that they do....stock or properly modified (they just work better modified).

I have personally been involved in a dozen dyno tests with every one showing tangible gains and have helped dozens of others do the same (make sizable power increases) by providing them with a ported FAST. Whats also important to note is many of these applications were very different...strokers, stock displacement, big cams, little cams, etc., etc., not to mention how many others have reported their own independent positive results with ported or out of the box units. Seems to me its a 100 positive results versus a few not so positive most of which seem to be coming from the same shop....

If we were in a court of law the FAST intake would walk and be declared innocent....to many positive results from a variety of sources versus too few negative ones from one or two.

But hey....ETP was in the headlines for what seems like a month....Im sure Craig, Cary, and boys at ET didnt mind the free advertising

And I dont mean any disrespect to Sean at Collins....we all have our opinions and are ovbiously allowed (and encouraged) to voice them here. As a shop owner / engine builder you have to use what works for you....thats why I will continue to stand behind the FAST and am convinced in ported trim its the best polymer intake manifold on the planet for an LS engine, and especially suited to a street/strip application due to its runner length and other attributes.

Hope everyone is enjoying the Holiday weekend...

Regards,
Tony

Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive

Tony I am really begginging to question my respect for you as a manufacturer. Butt dyno placebo results ?Come on Man the only way to test this and even you know is to setup an engine on a dyno in a car or on a real engien dyno and AB test this thing same day hopefully within a few minutes to under an hr.Make consecutive pulls and adjust for best fuel and spark.to really prove this out it would take 5 runs minimum with each intake. I have really come to question the honesty of the Manufacturers advertisers here.

Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive

Yes the fast was tried with lack luster results lost 20lb of TQ and 28hp.

Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive

the other question i have is why is everyone porting a $1200 intake Manifold???

Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00

So someone didnt install it correctly I assume, because that is the only reason power would be lost, anywhere. I havent read through all of the posts but I have never seen a FAST lose power if the installer knew what he or she was doing.