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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
Nope, I've been sick for the past few days and havent had the energy to get out there and do it, im working but with a fever as well. The intake box also doesnt have the valley cover bolts to do the swap, I will post up a graph as soon as we can. Hopefully I'll find some this weekend and get it on the dyno when we get some time.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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I've done A-B testing with the Stock Ls6 to FAST 90. I picked up power. The dyno testing was done ona 248c dynojet. In addition the ET's improved at the track.


Now, Tony has done his testing both on a dynojet, but also on a load cell. The guys at Wilson have a pretty firm grasp on intake design. I think they put a fair bit of time in geting this manifold right.

Now, as for testing that shows the EXACT opposite.
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Guys, screw it.

Just go Individual Runner.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Bump. What are the results Zach ?.
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Originally Posted by Zach@Texas-Speed
Nope, I've been sick for the past few days and havent had the energy to get out there and do it, im working but with a fever as well. The intake box also doesnt have the valley cover bolts to do the swap, I will post up a graph as soon as we can. Hopefully I'll find some this weekend and get it on the dyno when we get some time.
Hi Zach,
I hope you feel better this Tuesday morning and you have finally found those missing bolts.

Do you have any plan schedule for your testing yet?

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Most here know the Mustang reads a little lower than a dynojet. We are looking at the delta from the mannifold comparisons. Can you try a port matched 90/90 to these heads to look at? Maybe the runners on the ETPs are a little off compared to a factory head. I can see a loss in that case. But then a nice gain overall after a port match. Just my $.02.
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Sounds like someone needs a new tuner... I sorry to hear that CollinsAutomotive cant make power with these intakes. This is the first I have ever hear of this . I picked up 20 hp from a fast over my ls6 intake without porting.
Why dont you take that monster to a dynojet then you can atleast compare your numbers to others on the board. I have heard that a mustang dynos numbers can be adjusted to read like a dynojet or higher .... Im not saying you did that just tossign out the idea that instead of just telling us how much more you would or could make on a dynojet just make it and post it.
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Hey sean/ss125
If/when you guys do that A-B test could we swap his 90 with my ls6 and put his 90 on my 383(don't have etp heads) to see the differance.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Sounds like someone needs a new tuner... I sorry to hear that CollinsAutomotive cant make power with these intakes. This is the first I have ever hear of this . I picked up 20 hp from a fast over my ls6 intake without porting.
Why dont you take that monster to a dynojet then you can atleast compare your numbers to others on the board. I have heard that a mustang dynos numbers can be adjusted to read like a dynojet or higher .... Im not saying you did that just tossign out the idea that instead of just telling us how much more you would or could make on a dynojet just make it and post it.
Anytime you wish to swing on by I'll throw your car up on the dyno and let you have turn at the roller to see if you can best those numbers. With a Head and Cam 347
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Originally Posted by BADSZ28
Most here know the Mustang reads a little lower than a dynojet. We are looking at the delta from the mannifold comparisons. Can you try a port matched 90/90 to these heads to look at? Maybe the runners on the ETPs are a little off compared to a factory head. I can see a loss in that case. But then a nice gain overall after a port match. Just my $.02.
Port match wasn't to aweful. No better or worse then the factory and ported ls6 head. I know to make it perfect would require expoxy however.
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Originally Posted by 1BADAIR
Hey sean/ss125
If/when you guys do that A-B test could we swap his 90 with my ls6 and put his 90 on my 383(don't have etp heads) to see the differance.

I will see if we can get another FAST 90/90 to play with.
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I have etp 215's and a Fast 90 set-up on a stock block 02Z06, still have my LS6 intake in the basement too. Car has never been dyno'd. Where in MI are you? I'm in Windsor.
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Originally Posted by 02ZOh6
I have etp 215's and a Fast 90 set-up on a stock block 02Z06, still have my LS6 intake in the basement too. Car has never been dyno'd. Where in MI are you? I'm in Windsor.
About 45minutes away.Snoop around on some of the local detroit boards I am not hard to find.
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Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive
About 45minutes away.Snoop around on some of the local detroit boards I am not hard to find.
Some of the Detroit Boards? i think you have most of them covered
Old Nov 22, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CollinsAutomotive
I know for a fact that it does not work with cams in the 240's with wider LCA's
WTF are you talking about? Is this also only on 347s? We have several going low 10's on motor with cams like that and the FAST90/90. The Grocery Getter is almost exactly what you say won't work and it's about to go 9s on pump gas and a hydraulic roller in the 240s with a wide LSA and the FAST 90/90!
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Now Mr Fact or Bullshit is playing hard to get like a little school girl.
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Originally Posted by racer7088
WTF are you talking about? Is this also only on 347s? We have several going low 10's on motor with cams like that and the FAST90/90. The Grocery Getter is almost exactly what you say won't work and it's about to go 9s on pump gas and a hydraulic roller in the 240s with a wide LSA and the FAST 90/90!
yes, I agree with Erik. He just finished my motor, and I will be leaving my fast on. My best friend Chris Powell "Mr. Powell" who has been 8.9s running out of gear said his fast is staying on as well.

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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by racer7088
WTF are you talking about? Is this also only on 347s? We have several going low 10's on motor with cams like that and the FAST90/90. The Grocery Getter is almost exactly what you say won't work and it's about to go 9s on pump gas and a hydraulic roller in the 240s with a wide LSA and the FAST 90/90!
Hmm maybe you have somehow managed to Miss the beggining of the post where i actually Post up the AB test results from the FAST intake to the LS6. It lost power.
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Originally Posted by OhIt'sBeenBraughten
Now Mr Fact or Bullshit is playing hard to get like a little school girl.
Hmmm Where is the somebody who posted up about testing a FAST and so far has yet to show up ?
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Originally Posted by 1LSWON
yes, I agree with Erik. He just finished my motor, and I will be leaving my fast on. My best friend Chris Powell "Mr. Powell" who has been 8.9s running out of gear said his fast is staying on as well.

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