Holley hi_ram issue l93 ls3 300-117/116
08-21-2012, 09:25 PM
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Holley hi_ram issue l93 ls3 300-117/116 hey guys i've had 3 of these intakes so far and every one of them is off on the injector bosses depth from bank to bank
anyone else with this problem the cathedral ports seem to be fine just the l92/ls3 style
i've talked to holley tech a few times and they all say they will call back and never due
anyone else with this problem the cathedral ports seem to be fine just the l92/ls3 style
i've talked to holley tech a few times and they all say they will call back and never due
08-22-2012, 08:23 AM
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hey guys i've had 3 of these intakes so far and every one of them is off on the injector bosses depth from bank to bank
anyone else with this problem the cathedral ports seem to be fine just the l92/ls3 style
i've talked to holley tech a few times and they all say they will call back and never due
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anyone else with this problem the cathedral ports seem to be fine just the l92/ls3 style
i've talked to holley tech a few times and they all say they will call back and never due
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I'm just now seeing this for the first time. I work for Holley and have just sent an email to those individuals capable of sorting out this situation.
If you have any more comments/responses, please feel free to pm me.
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Blane
08-22-2012, 09:21 AM
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Please send us your contact information so we can figure out what the problem might be.
Our Tech Support call back systems requires you to confirm your phone number before the systems sets you up fpr a call back. It's automated so the Tech Guys.
PM m here and I will forward to the Tech Support guys to give you a call.
Thanks
Robin
Our Tech Support call back systems requires you to confirm your phone number before the systems sets you up fpr a call back. It's automated so the Tech Guys.
PM m here and I will forward to the Tech Support guys to give you a call.
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Robin
08-22-2012, 12:32 PM
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i'm running a large injector 2200CC and im concerned that the injector purtrudes past the intake flange on one side and i think under heavy duty cycle this will cause pooling of fuel and poor atomization through out all duty cycles
i pm'd both of you my contact info
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i pm'd both of you my contact info
thank you
08-23-2012, 08:42 AM
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holley tech says:
"I have talked with Jim this morning and we have examined a manifold. Basically the issue the customer is complaining of is a non-issue. The fit and function of the injector placement will in no way hurt or change the performance from one bank to the other. They are so close that all the components, fuel rails etc…. fit as supposed to
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Ricky V. Richter"
their are whole websites and books dedacated to injector placment.. so i guess its not important to HOLLEY
I must admit that I am a little shocked that even from a fit and finish standpoint this is acceptable. The flanges that mount to the head are thicker and look different from side to side also which lead me to believe that there was either a casting issue or a cnc program issue that is the root cause of this whole thing..
"I have talked with Jim this morning and we have examined a manifold. Basically the issue the customer is complaining of is a non-issue. The fit and function of the injector placement will in no way hurt or change the performance from one bank to the other. They are so close that all the components, fuel rails etc…. fit as supposed to
Thanks,
Thanks
Ricky V. Richter"
their are whole websites and books dedacated to injector placment.. so i guess its not important to HOLLEY
I must admit that I am a little shocked that even from a fit and finish standpoint this is acceptable. The flanges that mount to the head are thicker and look different from side to side also which lead me to believe that there was either a casting issue or a cnc program issue that is the root cause of this whole thing..
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08-23-2012, 12:26 PM
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Looks like about an 1/8" difference from one to the other. Hard to judge from pictures. Post pictures of each with your injector sticking through.
I'm curious that you think in one instance it'll work as expected, but with whatever small protrusion difference (let's say my estimate of 1/8" is remotely close), that it'll just be a highly inefficient scenario of pooling fuel and poor atomization. Hard to understand that it goes from being OK to catastrophic with that small of a deviation..
I'm curious that you think in one instance it'll work as expected, but with whatever small protrusion difference (let's say my estimate of 1/8" is remotely close), that it'll just be a highly inefficient scenario of pooling fuel and poor atomization. Hard to understand that it goes from being OK to catastrophic with that small of a deviation..
08-23-2012, 03:33 PM
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I know for a fact Holley in NOT shipping anymore of these due to problems. A sponsor, whom I will not mention (so I don't get him in any trouble) told me this in a phone conversation yesterday. Sorry for your problem and sorry to hear about the sh!tty customer service from Holley. I would expect more out of them I will make sure I avoid their products in the future.
08-23-2012, 05:34 PM
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its about 150 thou difference from side to side from injector to flange
also from a injector mounting surface its different and that could cause a injector o-ring to push
do i think it will make a difference on a 500hp car no
i'm attempting to make over 1000 to the wheels it will make a difference in that scenario
also from a injector mounting surface its different and that could cause a injector o-ring to push
do i think it will make a difference on a 500hp car no
i'm attempting to make over 1000 to the wheels it will make a difference in that scenario
Looks like about an 1/8" difference from one to the other. Hard to judge from pictures. Post pictures of each with your injector sticking through.
I'm curious that you think in one instance it'll work as expected, but with whatever small protrusion difference (let's say my estimate of 1/8" is remotely close), that it'll just be a highly inefficient scenario of pooling fuel and poor atomization. Hard to understand that it goes from being OK to catastrophic with that small of a deviation..
I'm curious that you think in one instance it'll work as expected, but with whatever small protrusion difference (let's say my estimate of 1/8" is remotely close), that it'll just be a highly inefficient scenario of pooling fuel and poor atomization. Hard to understand that it goes from being OK to catastrophic with that small of a deviation..
08-23-2012, 10:31 PM
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The cathedral versions I have seen do not have this problem. I have three in the shop now. However the three ls3 versions I have seen are all machined this way that the op posted about.
08-31-2012, 12:25 PM
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hey holley employees as you can see stangkiller is have issues at high power levels i would bet that its because the injector is not spraying down on the same spot in that bank ..... can you confirm or denie that y'all are working on a revised ls3 lower and will you be issuing vouchers for us that have the poor quality version to get the updated version for free