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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 05:44 AM
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 08:16 AM
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I have a current set of Isky HPX short travel hydraulic tie bar lifters too and the look very similar to those.
Also made by Johnson's.
I need to find out more information about those bushed lifters though.
Part number is 6177BUSH.
I think they are a cheaper version of morel 6177 but have lower open and seat pressure requirements.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Full on race solids will run 0.020-0.030 lash. They have even more extreme ramp rates off and on the seat. With that much lash they are not nearly as quiet.
Are you referring to the camshafts or lifters here?
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The cam. Sorry, that wasn't very clear.
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Originally Posted by Launch
That's some BS. He must have meant not to surpass the max recommended seat and open pressures
Kudos to you for knowing to say "must HAVE" and not "must OF"...
Old Oct 8, 2019 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Kudos to you for knowing to say "must HAVE" and not "must OF"...
Speaking of spring pressure and seat requirement I have confirmation that the recommendation is not required.
It's listed so a racer knows how much pressure the lifter is designed to handle.
My seat and pressure is optimum for what I am doing.
So I am all good and the seller I was in contact with didn't know what he was saying.
Old Oct 8, 2019 | 08:04 AM
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I ended up ordering lifters.
I contacted Cam motion and they told me that their axle oiled lifter that is $782 is indeed a rebranded Morel 5425.
The Howard's Pro max are also the same lifter too.
Because there was a brand new set quite cheap with the ebay special I jumped on it in time.
I had two minutes before the special price expired.
$90 saving so I'm happy.
So glad that is sorted.
I have been doing a ton of research and deciding which ones to get.
Now I can rest.
Old Oct 10, 2019 | 08:38 AM
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Here are these beauties. They came in two days. Just waiting on the LLSR now.
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 09:22 AM
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Camshaft was sent yesterday via fedex international priority.
Will be here on Monday so it will be Sunday to you guys in the USA due to the time difference.
Will post some pics up to get you all excited.
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The camshaft arrived and what a beauty it is. Erection inducing material.
It was ground perfectly and as described.
Here's hoping that these Pat G custom solid roller lobes work their magic like last time.
I admit I did ask why he specified me a camshaft with only an 8 degree split for my combo and he had some very valid reasons.
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Originally Posted by bortous
The camshaft arrived and what a beauty it is. Erection inducing material.
It was ground perfectly and as described.
Here's hoping that these Pat G custom solid roller lobes work their magic like last time.
I admit I did ask why he specified me a camshaft with only an 8 degree split for my combo and he had some very valid reasons.
Splits are just a result of the math. Like LSA, advance, and everything else. Only the valve events matter.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Splits are just a result of the math. Like LSA, advance, and everything else. Only the valve events matter.
That's true because Patrick still got an ivc of 52 and Evo of 64 with only an 8 degree split vs 15 what I had before with my 242/257 113 LSA +3 hydrauilc spec.
He also said with an 8 degree split you will make more low and mid range torque as well as more under the curve too. Probably even a higher peak torque number too if I remember correctly.
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Looking good. Eager to see how this goes for you as I have a solid roller ls2 with small bore ls7 heads on my engine stand waiting to go in my car. I like the 8 degree split versus the previous 15. Too much split in a n/a you will lose low/mid range torque as Patrick said.

I know you are ls3 heads so it's not apples to apples but I have a blower cam with too much split in my n/a ls1 and I need to shift it at 7500rpm to get the best out of it when messing around with my gtech. So i'd never choose that cam to run it n/a. I put it in there at the time because I planned on getting a procharger kit. Then I lost it and bought those nascar ls7 heads/t&d rockers and an LS2 short motor instead. If I had known at the time I need 1k aud for oiler valve covers to suit these heads/rockers because the rockers aren't internally oiled to the roller tip (they rely on solely on valve cover oilers), I wouldn't have bought any of it and forged internal the ls1 and ordered a procharger kit or huron speed turbo kit instead. 1k for valve covers is retarded especially when I already bought $450 aud worth of proform chev logo tall covers/coil brackets. I'll see if I can sell the proforms to get a few hundred dollars back, but you might be aware of the lowballers here in oz lately, so I really can't be bothered dealing with selling used car parts anymore.
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Originally Posted by Launch
Looking good. Eager to see how this goes for you as I have a solid roller ls2 with small bore ls7 heads on my engine stand waiting to go in my car. I like the 8 degree split versus the previous 15. Too much split in a n/a you will lose low/mid range torque as Patrick said.

I know you are ls3 heads so it's not apples to apples but I have a blower cam with too much split in my n/a ls1 and I need to shift it at 7500rpm to get the best out of it when messing around with my gtech. So i'd never choose that cam to run it n/a. I put it in there at the time because I planned on getting a procharger kit. Then I lost it and bought those nascar ls7 heads/t&d rockers and an LS2 short motor instead. If I had known at the time I need 1k aud for oiler valve covers to suit these heads/rockers because the rockers aren't internally oiled to the roller tip (they rely on solely on valve cover oilers), I wouldn't have bought any of it and forged internal the ls1 and ordered a procharger kit or huron speed turbo kit instead. 1k for valve covers is retarded especially when I already bought $450 aud worth of proform chev logo tall covers/coil brackets. I'll see if I can sell the proforms to get a few hundred dollars back, but you might be aware of the lowballers here in oz lately, so I really can't be bothered dealing with selling used car parts anymore.
Are you located in Australia?
I understand about perfectly well about low ball offers.
The way I see it, if you wouldn't sell it that much for yourself don't expect anything different from others,
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Are you located in Australia?
My daily drive.. really good cars the VY's. I have to resist the temptation to throw more money at this one, it is headers/exhaust/tune/orca and plenty quick for a daily.


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Ah yes the VY SS.
It looks like you have VZ SS wheels on it.
I have a VZ R8 clubsport if you didn't already know.
In regards to the camshaft, get Patrick Guerra to spec you a camshaft like he did for me.
His previous camshaft made 372rwkw on my stroker engine when it was running right.
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That is 499 hp for those of you in the back.
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Originally Posted by bortous
Ah yes the VY SS.
It looks like you have VZ SS wheels on it.
I have a VZ R8 clubsport if you didn't already know.
In regards to the camshaft, get Patrick Guerra to spec you a camshaft like he did for me.
His previous camshaft made 372rwkw on my stroker engine when it was running right.
Yeah i've seen your clubby, nice car. Yeah they're VZ SS wheels. I don't care much for the VY SS wheels. I was thinking to buy some VY R8 wheels for it next time.
I'm still on the fence of giving up with the n/a thing in my Camaro and adding boost to the LS2 I have instead. Since buying the VY ( I already had the Camaro as in sig before the VY) and having a fun ls1 car again as a daily to thrash around, is making even more think that way. Use some cheap heads and stay hydraulic with the LS2 instead, add boost. But I'm already 3.5k into these small bore ls7 heads/t&d rockers. Reselling them here for anything decent will be difficult. Plus I'd need to tell people they need spray oiler valve covers to work, another close to 1k to get here.
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Originally Posted by Launch
Yeah i've seen your clubby, nice car. Yeah they're VZ SS wheels. I don't care much for the VY SS wheels. I was thinking to buy some VY R8 wheels for it next time.
I'm still on the fence of giving up with the n/a thing in my Camaro and adding boost to the LS2 I have instead. Since buying the VY ( I already had the Camaro as in sig before the VY) and having a fun ls1 car again as a daily to thrash around, is making even more think that way. Use some cheap heads and stay hydraulic with the LS2 instead, add boost. But I'm already 3.5k into these small bore ls7 heads/t&d rockers. Reselling them here for anything decent will be difficult. Plus I'd need to tell people they need spray oiler valve covers to work, another close to 1k to get here.
Where did you get those small bore LS7 heads from?

Speaking of wheels.
I found a set of vz r8 genuine wheels for only 500 aud.
3 were in excellent condition and one was cracked.
So for three good wheels the price was a bargain.
Now I can mount those Yokohama advan neova ad08r tyres on them.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
That is 499 hp for those of you in the back.
I should've typed that in my post.
I need to remember my American brethren.



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