Ls2 408 stroker
Originally Posted by ddnspider
Was just going to say some of you need boost in your life. A whippled 427 would be downright hateful.
I think that's where I ended up too. At 10 psi now, trying to sort out a fuel pressure drop and turning it up.
that's ashame, that's the beauty of boost on a street car, it drives nicer and can make more power than NA. Every turbo/blower setup I've done always had AC, but an S484 isn't exactly small lol. As long as you end up happy that's all that matters.
Cue evil laugh...muahahahaha. The dark side (boost) will overtake all eventually. I've got $5000 into my 700fwhp setup
My build started out as a built LS2 s484 turbo build. Closer it got to being complete, less i liked the direction my car was heading. It cost me alot of money n time to abandon the turbo set up. In the end a wild NA build looks n feels better in my streetcar build. I was fighting issues with having ac, power steering, etc...1 Turbo car comin up next tho...
Cue evil laugh...muahahahaha. The dark side (boost) will overtake all eventually. I've got $5000 into my 700fwhp setup
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Both well over 30k builds by the time you turn the key. Pretty cool links tho for sure. If money comes that easy, than i guess 800hp is easy. Than you need a credit union to fund a 98octane fuel bill to go out to dinner. Im thinkn most guys here are lucky if 20k budget is allowed.
Race fuel, dry sump, packaging constraints, and huge upfront costs=NOT SO EASY, IMHO
If im droppn 30k on a build, i ll take a turnkey whippled 427ci and 900+ whp to show for it.
Im gunna email Lingenfelter and ask some questions SMOKEY style. I like that set up.
Happy holidays to everyone...hopn Santa brings Bortous alil luck n progress on his motor
Race fuel, dry sump, packaging constraints, and huge upfront costs=NOT SO EASY, IMHO
If im droppn 30k on a build, i ll take a turnkey whippled 427ci and 900+ whp to show for it.
Im gunna email Lingenfelter and ask some questions SMOKEY style. I like that set up.
Happy holidays to everyone...hopn Santa brings Bortous alil luck n progress on his motor
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Any guy who like engines has no budget....as they will always have something new to try out or something that's known to be a better upgrade. The dumb ones go broke trying to keep up the Jones.
BTW. You could get away with 800 for less.
Resleeved Stroker short block and a set of Brodix Ls7 heads. That's 90% of the build. BTW everyone doesn't like the FI BS. Crowded engine bay and not being Natural has it role in things. Key Word Natural! If your a NA guy your NA ...if you like FI then...your a Turbo or S/C lover. Not everyone wants a hair dryer to make HP. Some of us like it natural.
BTW. You could get away with 800 for less.
Resleeved Stroker short block and a set of Brodix Ls7 heads. That's 90% of the build. BTW everyone doesn't like the FI BS. Crowded engine bay and not being Natural has it role in things. Key Word Natural! If your a NA guy your NA ...if you like FI then...your a Turbo or S/C lover. Not everyone wants a hair dryer to make HP. Some of us like it natural.
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Rup you just need to get with the right person...**** comes out cheaper and no BS hype. Again 800 was done with a small bore lq4 and 4.185 stroke. Think about it with less than 12.0 compression under 7500. Thing just filled the cylinder better than the more expensive bigger builds in your mind. Don't over complicate it.
it's honestly simple ..... Call them & ask questions. After which you've got you answers ....I'll spec the same build and I bet I'm close or damn near even Cheaper! Just give me the size and rpm used?
Yeah it's that simple, send me a pm after you call.
BTW there just filling the cylinder better than the typical smuck that's all, or have more compression/rpm to get there. No other way,.... it's NA
it's honestly simple ..... Call them & ask questions. After which you've got you answers ....I'll spec the same build and I bet I'm close or damn near even Cheaper! Just give me the size and rpm used?
Yeah it's that simple, send me a pm after you call.
BTW there just filling the cylinder better than the typical smuck that's all, or have more compression/rpm to get there. No other way,.... it's NA
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Damn here you are Rup....you don't know who to look for.
Ls7 with a big bore. 440 ci °compression was on the higher side. SR would get that back if lowered! We come back to that problem of hood clearence and intake choice. It's easy if you've got no bottle neck.
So out came the hydraulic roller and in the solid. Still with stock rockers. It made 824 at 7,500-7,700. The solid I made 870@8,000. I made the dyno pulls the same from 5500-8,000. The average was up 30hp but 8,000 was up 65hp
The hydraulic was 264/271 .650 lift 113 LSA installed on a 111. Now it was perfect for what designed for my jet boat. It made over 600 ft lbs for 3,000 rpm with a peak of 680.
The solid is 270/284 113 LSA on a 111 W/.670 after lash. Which is more in line with what we need for the car.
I'll get some BS it has to much overlap.....work it out. Here's a baseline.
Got Bottle Neck?
All factory hard parts...block,crank,heads,etc....
LMAO @ some of these threads...I got this and spent this amount. You got F'ed.
Center counter weight crank Rup.... Pricing is about that of a normal LS crank. Zach's a dealer...was told around 1k from Callies. Maybe a dealer price for a friend. This was a race gas 14+ compression engine. If you can't figure out lowering the compression and installing a solid roller that will fill the cylinder more to compensate it ....sounds like who's build?
John B. Yeah it's that damn simple. Reason I follow the guys I do. ET's and HP proven. They're all @ the same shows, contest and forums.
Ls7 with a big bore. 440 ci °compression was on the higher side. SR would get that back if lowered! We come back to that problem of hood clearence and intake choice. It's easy if you've got no bottle neck.
So out came the hydraulic roller and in the solid. Still with stock rockers. It made 824 at 7,500-7,700. The solid I made 870@8,000. I made the dyno pulls the same from 5500-8,000. The average was up 30hp but 8,000 was up 65hp
The hydraulic was 264/271 .650 lift 113 LSA installed on a 111. Now it was perfect for what designed for my jet boat. It made over 600 ft lbs for 3,000 rpm with a peak of 680.
The solid is 270/284 113 LSA on a 111 W/.670 after lash. Which is more in line with what we need for the car.
I'll get some BS it has to much overlap.....work it out. Here's a baseline.
Got Bottle Neck?
All factory hard parts...block,crank,heads,etc....
LMAO @ some of these threads...I got this and spent this amount. You got F'ed.
Center counter weight crank Rup.... Pricing is about that of a normal LS crank. Zach's a dealer...was told around 1k from Callies. Maybe a dealer price for a friend. This was a race gas 14+ compression engine. If you can't figure out lowering the compression and installing a solid roller that will fill the cylinder more to compensate it ....sounds like who's build?
John B. Yeah it's that damn simple. Reason I follow the guys I do. ET's and HP proven. They're all @ the same shows, contest and forums.
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Rup is thinking of calling Lingenfelter performance. This is the basic blueprint and thought with cam ideas for it. is Lingenfelter doing some type of black magic? No. ....Rup doesn't believe me so. I posted before the call. I would like for him to achieve his goal....he doesn't believe it's just that easy. Which is Typical Ls1 sales thoughts....John B ain't special...Just Smart and knows who to deal with.
You do realize I've dealt with all he's (John) dealt with and used as far as the top end... and spending coin
You do realize I've dealt with all he's (John) dealt with and used as far as the top end... and spending coin
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https://www.yellowbullet.com/threads...ombos.2605661/
just 4 u Bortous for being nice. Lots of combo ideas and references. A few post here but not often.
just 4 u Bortous for being nice. Lots of combo ideas and references. A few post here but not often.
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Your stupid and funny it's my 3rd one. 383w e-tec heads sold & still running.. I've got a Few great buliders. Tying to get there. Willing to start a go fund me account.. which would never End.
have 2 sets and want another.
have 2 sets and want another.
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Id say we're the same, but at least I'm funny.
That is a riot claiming NA is simple....have you read this thread or all the other large NA threads where people have to swap cams/springs/ $400 pushrods/$1000 intake manifolds? Give me a break.
That is a riot claiming NA is simple....have you read this thread or all the other large NA threads where people have to swap cams/springs/ $400 pushrods/$1000 intake manifolds? Give me a break.
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Tuskey say what Brian Tooley told you about ......naw you'll shut down the site. Funny thing is another guy named Bryan told me the same thing a few wks ago. Don't believe the hype!
If you want HP you got to spend or build it for HP the 1st time out. You learn from what's seen and done. Or be the 1st one to do something and learn from it and work from there. There are To many LS builds to see something new? May be new to U but not new!
A $1k intake...so funny! How about the $2k one that can't supply a need?
If you want HP you got to spend or build it for HP the 1st time out. You learn from what's seen and done. Or be the 1st one to do something and learn from it and work from there. There are To many LS builds to see something new? May be new to U but not new!
A $1k intake...so funny! How about the $2k one that can't supply a need?
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Id like to further discuss this, but its rude to chew up Bortous' thread. SMOKEYB, I am gunna call or email Lingenfelter about that link.
Lets start a different thread that picks up where Smokey qouted two 30k NA builds as an "easy" 800hp
This way if the insults start or gets to dramatic, BORTOUS' thread wont get locked or derailed anymore.
SMOKEY, start a thread called EASY 800HP. Lets pick this up from there!
UPDATE-new thread started....in this section. If possible, maybe the Mods can clean up this thread alil in lieu of a "new stomping ground" thread. There is a ton of good info and actual results happening at the expense of Bortous' build.
Lets start a different thread that picks up where Smokey qouted two 30k NA builds as an "easy" 800hp
This way if the insults start or gets to dramatic, BORTOUS' thread wont get locked or derailed anymore.
SMOKEY, start a thread called EASY 800HP. Lets pick this up from there!
UPDATE-new thread started....in this section. If possible, maybe the Mods can clean up this thread alil in lieu of a "new stomping ground" thread. There is a ton of good info and actual results happening at the expense of Bortous' build.
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I would like this! I can talk above 750 fwhp and we can find out about the intake you had in mind. My thought is Dual 102 tb's not 90's. I could ask Ole uncle ER about his thoughts on porting such a intake. That 1st cam shown 264 @ .050 if switched to a solid....Perfect number to start with. I did say 260ish cam for 800 and a 4 inch arm maybe a little less.....All builds I know of have this general starting point for: 4.030 to 4.125+
Bortous u know I luv U I not gay
Bortous u know I luv U
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I would like this! I can talk above 750 fwhp and we can find out about the intake you had in mind. My thought is Dual 102 tb's not 90's. I could ask Ole uncle ER about his thoughts on porting such a intake. That 1st cam shown 264 @ .050 if switched to a solid....Perfect number to start with. I did say 260ish cam for 800 and a 4 inch arm maybe a little less.....All builds I know of have this general starting point for: 4.030 to 4.125+
Bortous u know I luv U I not gay
Bortous u know I luv U
I not gay