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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mickyinks
my engine before this go around was lsx 454 ls3 heads with 2.180 intake valves, stock ls3 intake manifold btr 239/254 cam... made 396rwkw, added a fast 102mm 415rwkw.
Somethings not rite with tht 468, mayb baby cam
The 468 had a 252/264 .680 .680 114lsa+4 cam motion low lash solid roller.
Works out to a 246/258 in hydraulic.
Running through a 4l80e trans.
Dyno does read lower than others though.
if I had spent the money on the mast heads I would expect about 450rwkw.
Your power figure seems a bit high for what you have using stock LS3 heads.
If that's right that's fantastic power.




Old Jan 13, 2020 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bortous
The 468 had a 252/264 .680 .680 114lsa+4 cam motion solid roller.
Running through a 4l80e trans.
Dyno does read lower than others though.
if I had spent the money on the mast heads I would expect about 450rwkw.
Your power figure seems a bit high for what you have using stock LS3 heads.
If that's right that's fantastic power.
Heads werent stock, cnc'd ,heaps of hand porting, bigger intake valve , blackwell race engines did them , he said they were the best ls3 heads he'd done flow wise ...
Intake was oem ls3 then changed to fast 102
Old Jan 13, 2020 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mickyinks
Heads werent stock, cnc'd ,heaps of hand porting, bigger intake valve , blackwell race engines did them , he said they were the best ls3 heads he'd done flow wise ...
Intake was oem ls3 then changed to fast 102
Do you have the flow numbers?
What cc were the intake runners hogged out to?
That can certainly explain the higher figure.
Imagine if you were to fit more camshaft and a tunnel ram.
Old Jan 13, 2020 | 06:14 AM
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I didnt get a print out of flow numbers or cc, flow was a tad over 380 i was told
Old Jan 13, 2020 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mickyinks
I didnt get a print out of flow numbers or cc, flow was a tad over 380 i was told
Higgins are the same.
They flow 380cfm at 900 lift and 365 CFM at 650 lift.
Old Jan 16, 2020 | 11:44 AM
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Update from the lifter swap?
Old Jan 16, 2020 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Update from the lifter swap?
There won't be any solid updates till after the 20th January.
Tuner goes back to work on that date.
I will be dropping off lifters that date too and will update the thread with more information with the other issues that were raised.
Also to speak to him about the tunnel ram too.
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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Bortuous, I sent you a PM. Let me know what you think.

Not so sure it's the center portion of the lifters being narrowed. The stock lifters are narrowed. Unless you mean the part of the lifter body that is not narrowed is too narrow.... Here is a shot of the lifters I just pulled from my engine that ran with 50+ psi warm idle:


They do not have the axle oiling feature, but they never let me down. I replaced them with these since I was going to crazy uber lift cam specs:

Was not sure which post to bump for the reply, but as promised - oil pressure on the new lifters. Axle oiled, tall body, cam motion premium lifters, 70 psi cold start. Did not let it run very long, but guarantee it will be over 45 warm idle.
Old Jan 16, 2020 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Was not sure which post to bump for the reply, but as promised - oil pressure on the new lifters. Axle oiled, tall body, cam motion premium lifters, 70 psi cold start. Did not let it run very long, but guarantee it will be over 45 warm idle.
So you are saying that those premium racing lifters from cam motion you have are working as they should with the right pressure.
Lifter bores are stock too correct?
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Originally Posted by bortous
So you are saying that those premium racing lifters from cam motion you have are working as they should with the right pressure.
Lifter bores are stock too correct?
Correct and correct.
Old Jan 16, 2020 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Correct and correct.
And I was close to getting these lifters too if it wasn't for the postage and import taxes.
I still think if I had my engine would have been fine.
Those premium racing lifters are OEM spec etc from what I have heard others say.
Oiling holes and body is the same.

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Morel are idiots selling those lifters you purchased. You should call or email them and tell them that they are junk for standard blocks. They will probly spin some BS about it.
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Originally Posted by bortous
And I was close to getting these lifters too if it wasn't for the postage and import taxes.
I still think if I had my engine would have been fine.
Those premium racing lifters are OEM spec etc from what I have heard others say.
Oiling holes and body is the same.
Honestly, I bet if you had, you'd have driven your car home. That's another reason why sometimes the cheap parts are the expensive parts.
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Originally Posted by Launch
Morel are idiots selling those lifters you purchased. You should call or email them and tell them that they are junk for standard blocks. They will probly spin some BS about it.
I'm organising a refund from the seller off eBay.
If he doesn't comply with the request if the lifters are the issue then i will do a PayPal dispute.
Old Jan 17, 2020 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bortous
I'm organising a refund from the seller off eBay.
If he doesn't comply with the request if the lifters are the issue then i will do a PayPal dispute.
Hopefully the seller will refund before that happens. Once you confirm it's the lifters for sure, tell the seller they need to contact Morel and ask for a money back return, that the lifters just don't work.
Old Jan 17, 2020 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Launch
Hopefully the seller will refund before that happens. Once you confirm it's the lifters for sure, tell the seller they need to contact Morel and ask for a money back return, that the lifters just don't work.
I have already put him on notice stating that we will be finding out for sure after January 20th.
So there is no excuse.
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Can you post a side-by-side photo of the old problematic lifters with your new lifters for comparison?
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I think his suspect lifters are still in the engine
Old Jan 17, 2020 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Know It All
Can you post a side-by-side photo of the old problematic lifters with your new lifters for comparison?
Will do that once they are out of the engine.




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