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Id like to further discuss this, but its rude to chew up Bortous' thread. SMOKEYB, I am gunna call or email Lingenfelter about that link.
Lets start a different thread that picks up where Smokey qouted two 30k NA builds as an "easy" 800hp
This way if the insults start or gets to dramatic, BORTOUS' thread wont get locked or derailed anymore.
SMOKEY, start a thread called EASY 800HP. Lets pick this up from there!
UPDATE-new thread started....in this section. If possible, maybe the Mods can clean up this thread alil in lieu of a "new stomping ground" thread. There is a ton of good info and actual results happening at the expense of Bortous' build.
Lets start a different thread that picks up where Smokey qouted two 30k NA builds as an "easy" 800hp
This way if the insults start or gets to dramatic, BORTOUS' thread wont get locked or derailed anymore.
SMOKEY, start a thread called EASY 800HP. Lets pick this up from there!
UPDATE-new thread started....in this section. If possible, maybe the Mods can clean up this thread alil in lieu of a "new stomping ground" thread. There is a ton of good info and actual results happening at the expense of Bortous' build.
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I have also (for my ls7 heads engine) but I hate the thought of the car looking like Warren Johnson's old rides. Which reminds me of smokey giving mamo such a hard time with his intake. If a ported MSD is 15fwhp or even 20fwhp less than the best tall intakes that need a very tall reverse cowl hood, lots of people me included will take the ported msd over the extra 20hp because of the overall package and gain more elsewhere. It's not ls1sales, it's ls1sellingpartspeopleactuallywant. If they didn't want it they wouldn't buy it, nobody is putting a gun to their head saying must buy it. Smokey sometimes over the top like it's a plastic intake anti-hp conspiracy by mamo/ls1sales. No man, not everyone wants Warren Johnson hood on their street car. I guess smoking so often heightens the paranoia 
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I have also (for my ls7 heads engine) but I hate the thought of the car looking like Warren Johnson's old rides. Which reminds me of smokey giving mamo such a hard time with his intake. If a ported MSD is 15fwhp or even 20fwhp less than the best tall intakes that need a very tall reverse cowl hood, lots of people me included will take the ported msd over the extra 20hp because of the overall package and gain more elsewhere. It's not ls1sales, it's ls1sellingpartspeopleactuallywant. If they didn't want it they wouldn't buy it, nobody is putting a gun to their head saying must buy it. Smokey sometimes over the top like it's a plastic intake anti-hp conspiracy by mamo/ls1sales. No man, not everyone wants Warren Johnson hood on their street car. I guess smoking so often heightens the paranoia
On a 415 stroker the tunnel ram vs the stock LS3 the torque losses in the low end were very small and yet the tunnel ram made more peak torque than the stock LS3 intake even though the velocity stacks are much shorter.
i also think my camshaft timing events are very well suited to the tunnel ram too.
Have you seen the graph I posted?
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I have also (for my ls7 heads engine) but I hate the thought of the car looking like Warren Johnson's old rides. Which reminds me of smokey giving mamo such a hard time with his intake. If a ported MSD is 15fwhp or even 20fwhp less than the best tall intakes that need a very tall reverse cowl hood, lots of people me included will take the ported msd over the extra 20hp because of the overall package and gain more elsewhere. It's not ls1sales, it's ls1sellingpartspeopleactuallywant. If they didn't want it they wouldn't buy it, nobody is putting a gun to their head saying must buy it. Smokey sometimes over the top like it's a plastic intake anti-hp conspiracy by mamo/ls1sales. No man, not everyone wants Warren Johnson hood on their street car. I guess smoking so often heightens the paranoia
When he is on the green he is in his own little world.
Trying to convince him about something just won't work.
One track mind.
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Launch I keep forgetting, what car do you have this engine in again?
On a 415 stroker the tunnel ram vs the stock LS3 the torque losses in the low end were very small and yet the tunnel ram made more peak torque than the stock LS3 intake even though the velocity stacks are much shorter.
i also think my camshaft timing events are very well suited to the tunnel ram too.
Have you seen the graph I posted?
On a 415 stroker the tunnel ram vs the stock LS3 the torque losses in the low end were very small and yet the tunnel ram made more peak torque than the stock LS3 intake even though the velocity stacks are much shorter.
i also think my camshaft timing events are very well suited to the tunnel ram too.
Have you seen the graph I posted?
If you don't mind adding a cowl hood that new fast intake should be a beast with your combo. You might want to try an even higher stall converter but I think you are going to be really pushing the limits of the 4l60e. If you don't do too many WOT into 3rd you should be ok for a while.
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My ls7 heads 6.0 engine I'm building isn't in my car yet. It's for my Camaro which is currently a cammed sbe ls1. And the rest of the car is already setup to take a lot of HP.
If you don't mind adding a cowl hood that new fast intake should be a beast with your combo. You might want to try an even higher stall converter but I think you are going to be really pushing the limits of the 4l60e. If you don't do too many WOT into 3rd you should be ok for a while.
If you don't mind adding a cowl hood that new fast intake should be a beast with your combo. You might want to try an even higher stall converter but I think you are going to be really pushing the limits of the 4l60e. If you don't do too many WOT into 3rd you should be ok for a while.
4l65e was rebuilt by Craig's automatics which are probably one of the best shops in Australia.
it was built to maximum spec too.
i also think stall converter should be fine.
I have a feeling that fast tunnel ram will make more torque than my fast with the mid length runners.
If you saw the graph in my other post the low rpm loss I'd minimal which really surprised me.
By the way what do you guys think of trying that new fast intake?
I will have to make up my mind by the end of the month.
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I have a feeling that fast tunnel ram will make more torque than my fast with the mid length runners.
If you saw the graph in my other post the low rpm loss I'd minimal which really surprised me.
By the way what do you guys think of trying that new fast intake?
I will have to make up my mind by the end of the month.
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I have a feeling that fast tunnel ram will make more torque than my fast with the mid length runners.
If you saw the graph in my other post the low rpm loss I'd minimal which really surprised me.
By the way what do you guys think of trying that new fast intake?
I will have to make up my mind by the end of the month.
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I doubt you can go wrong with it. It looks like it should be able to support much more HP for future builds. Even if it doesn't gain any torque down low but doesn't lose, and gains torque/hp up high it'll be a win. If you end up buying it you will give Smokey further nightmares about $2000 plastic intakes.
He really has it in for those plastic intakes.
With initial testing this plastic intakes makes more torque than the holley ram, has more torque low and mid and also more hp in the top end too.
The standard velocity stacks that come with the FAST are good up to 8000rpm which is perfect for my application.
As stated my builder did an LSX 468 with top of the line MAST Black Label 305cc LS7 heads.
Customer wanted to use a FAST 102mm intake.
Engine made only 380rwkw but torque was through the roof.
That intake would certainly not flow enough air to support that combo. There would easily be over 400rwkw available with a proper intake.
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my engine before this go around was lsx 454 ls3 heads with 2.180 intake valves, stock ls3 intake manifold btr 239/254 cam... made 396rwkw, added a fast 102mm 415rwkw.
Somethings not rite with tht 468, mayb baby cam
Somethings not rite with tht 468, mayb baby cam