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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
And wont work with a plastic intake either I guess😂
Ah yes the plastic.
Everything on that head would be custom parts.
Intake included.
I wonder how many thousands it would cost to set something like this up.
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And you will need to rev the **** out of the engine to get the flow out of them.
Looks like 9-10K rpm
That is exactly the issue with large ports. They shine with rpm. It is easy to get hung up on flow, but more flow is not always better just like more cam is not always better.

Think of your IVC at 52 degrees. That's after BDC. In other words piston is on the way up. You want good fill? You need high port velocity to maintain airflow direction even though the piston is coming up.

Flow determines the max power the heads will support. Smallest port that makes that flow will always do the best.

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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokey B
Yeah 1's wrong. .the intake. Mamo stuff is over priced with avg or Just as much with stock heads, Dyno and ET. If you gonna get a casting get Brodix and get the work done or Mast... DUDES FOR THE Rich with Stock'ish head HP. Most of the power he's getting is compression Vs others Damn sure wasn't impressed with the 454 and 12.5 compression and 775 HP... TSP was only 25 HP off with a factory intake, less compression and a hydraulic roller
My 346 with Mamo 220 heads outran a lot of the strikers in tuskys thread at 3460 race weight and in 4800 DA air. But if that is average, then yeah, the heads are average.
Old Jan 24, 2020 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
That is exactly the issue with large ports. They shine with rpm. It is easy to get hung up on flow, but more flow is not always better just like more cam is not always better.

Think of your IVC at 52 degrees. That's after BDC. In other words piston is on the way up. You want good fill? You need high port velocity to maintain airflow direction even though the piston is coming up.

Flow determines the max power the heads will support. Smallest port that makes that flow will always do the best.

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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 11:51 AM
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I guess those Factory 5.3 heads and a 346 was Avg also running Low 10's and I believe a Hydraulic roller..
Old Jan 24, 2020 | 11:53 AM
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You can make Anything work not just OTB..Dollar for Dollar Bortous ....Brodix heads CNC from them or have a set made for about the same price.
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Originally Posted by Smokey B
I guess those Factory 5.3 heads and a 346 was Avg also running Low 10's and I believe a Hydraulic roller..
Weight and DA? If it's a light car and normal DA that makes a big difference
Old Jan 24, 2020 | 12:03 PM
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Coach 02 A3 Z/28 10.143@132.33; 02 Z28 Camaro (346); T-350; Patrick G-comp cam; 5.3 GM heads; 3200lbs; 4/25/09

I use to compare alot of builds for HP and ET's..if you've seen one you've seen them all type of thing.
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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Yeah 1's wrong. .the intake. Mamo stuff is over priced with avg or Just as much with stock heads, Dyno and ET. If you gonna get a casting get Brodix and get the work done or Mast... DUDES FOR THE Rich with Stock'ish head HP. Most of the power he's getting is compression Vs others Damn sure wasn't impressed with the 454 and 12.5 compression and 775 HP... TSP was only 25 HP off with a factory intake, less compression and a hydraulic roller
Kinda interesting. I hear this a lot yet my NA 383 build was the highest hp NA 383 on one Dyno and second highest on a second (only because I had a fuel pump issue). And my boosted 383 is .2 off the fastest aluminum LS1 block car and I've coasted to my pb's lol. I don't advertise all my ET's because I actually race.
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Originally Posted by Smokey B
You can make Anything work not just OTB..Dollar for Dollar Bortous ....Brodix heads CNC from them or have a set made for about the same price.
so as long as they are brodix heads they are best. Gotcha
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Bortous that's NPS's video. Cool guy.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
My 346 with Mamo 220 heads outran a lot of the strikers in tuskys thread at 3460 race weight and in 4800 DA air. But if that is average, then yeah, the heads are average.
With 2 passes at the track before you got booted. Car had another .2 or I feel much more with some track tuning. Then bring it out to my area with 0 DA and then what lol.
Old Jan 24, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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Not saying that....but cost Vs anything other than that your getting Fucked.
AllPro heads as cast run $2k plus

head that's just as good runs $1600
Old Jan 24, 2020 | 12:12 PM
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Hydraulic roller vs Solid? 12+ compression Vs 11'ish?
Damn good build...Never the less.
Old Jan 24, 2020 | 12:14 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 12:20 PM
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Dude does good work and AFR are good heads ...I just don't think he or his products are the end all.. like what's done here. Other Builders don't post here made short... Cost to post and reason most the Greats are gone and never to be seen again. ED @ FTI has been getting ET's for Year's. Who you think came up with Ls1sales. That wasn't me.

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99 WS6
Dude does good work and AFR are good heads ...I just don't think he or his products are the end all.. like what's done here.
No products are end all. And definitely stock stuff isn't end all. Mamo's builds don't see drag strip time as much. Mine do and the builds do very well for what they are.
Old Jan 24, 2020 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokey B
Builder on YB says that they've been doing 650 rwhp builds with the Ls7 for Years.
I just went to YB and wasted some time. Nothing over there. Except here is the latest pic of jabba the hut disguised as a milf.

Very little at all going on in the LS/hemi/coyote section to even speak of.
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No tripping it's just the when I come on here the 1st thing you'll read is Mamo it on anything **** has gotten OLD. And i still follow him and I remember PM'ing and talk with him on his 400 cfm AFR Cathedral heads... That was yrs ago and have gotten out and met other Porter's on the Same Level.. nothing's New.
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The best stuff is in the NA Section...LS has been mastered so no need to talk or post what's Known.



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