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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 09:37 AM
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Its a stick with 700+hp. It IS different than an auto car that's soft down low. If it was a drag car and class racing, sure a 26 can get the job done. Its a waste of time to fight the 26's to get traction on a true street car when a taller tire will work easier. It's not like the car is going to lose a ton of ET because of the bigger tire. He's already said its not max effort so a tenth means exactly nothing.
Actually, the only reason I have 26's is left over from the 346. When I moved, the tires got lost in the move, and then replaced brand new. So I have these brand new 26" QTP's. Otherwise I'd have 28's
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 09:42 AM
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Actually, the only reason I have 26's is left over from the 346. When I moved, the tires got lost in the move, and then replaced brand new. So I have these brand new 26" QTP's. Otherwise I'd have 28's
I don't fault you. You use what you got until it wears out otherwise you're just throwing money away. Get those fenders rolled and a 27.5-28" on there and its like a whole new world when you can suddenly hook 1 gear lower on the street
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta
What do you consider a good 60' on a street car?
1.6 to 1.5 is good but easier to do with a non stroker with a 6 speed.

Remember you can change the settings on your shocks/coilovers at the track. Just clicks away.....

Meanwhile I've seen a 1.39 60ft on a 28 " stiff wall tire with a 6 speed on a SINGLE adjustable strange. Ws6 car....

Darth should 60ft a 1.4 with ease in my opinon on a 28 inch tire thats locked in place.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
1.6 to 1.5 is good but easier to do with a non stroker with a 6 speed.

Remember you can change the settings on your shocks/coilovers at the track. Just clicks away.....

Meanwhile I've seen a 1.39 60ft on a 28 " stiff wall tire with a 6 speed on a SINGLE adjustable strange. Ws6 car....

Darth should 60ft a 1.4 with ease in my opinon on a 28 inch tire thats locked in place.
I agree it should. my afcos are single adjustable. Rebound only.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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You will absolutely destroy those 26's! I did in and auto car at 600+ to the wheel and yours is a stick car to boot. Good luck with that!!
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:22 AM
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I Iike going against the grain so I'll say it.
I have 28" and going back to 26" for gear ratio and will make it work. Set your car up to work with what you want.
. If they can put 2000 plus down on 275x cars, we can do it with 26" and less than half the power
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:24 AM
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Guess we should all throw out our tires that are larger than 26's.....
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Guess we should all throw out our tires that are larger than 26's.....
run what you want. In your way of thinking, we all should throw out our strokers and go turbo
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:33 AM
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Lol. People get so upset over tire sizes. I like 26's and I make them work. Auto and stick. Is a 28 easier? I honestly don't know, I haven't tried one yet because 26's always worked. Around me 28" tires used to be the crazy fast guys so I had to make 26's work. Now classes are different. We'll get to see how his car reacts. It has some very nice suspension and it's light. I'm sure he's going to end up on 28's but that's going to take some work on the fenders and bump stops and then possibly regearing.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
1.6 to 1.5 is good but easier to do with a non stroker with a 6 speed.

Remember you can change the settings on your shocks/coilovers at the track. Just clicks away.....

Meanwhile I've seen a 1.39 60ft on a 28 " stiff wall tire with a 6 speed on a SINGLE adjustable strange. Ws6 car....

Darth should 60ft a 1.4 with ease in my opinon on a 28 inch tire thats locked in place.
I cut 1.50 60' leaving at 3500 on stock suspension on a 8" wide 26" tire. I dont have the option of a wider 26" tire for a 16" wheel or I would buy a brand new set and continue on.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
run what you want. In your way of thinking, we all should throw out our strokers and go turbo
You're trying to use the 1% to disprove the 99%. Not being able to run the right gear in the car and solving it by a tire height change is hardly the norm. Even Lazer's car will benefit from a tire taller than a 26....just like Darth's will.

And I've never said that everything should be turbo'd....I'm objective enough to understand the inherent weaknesses of boost unless most of the big cube NA lovers on here who put down boost when they've never even built a proper set. They only know their brothers cousins friend who had a hacked together setup. It would be nice if they were as objective with their own NA limitations...
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta
I cut 1.50 60' leaving at 3500 on stock suspension on a 8" wide 26" tire. I dont have the option of a wider 26" tire for a 16" wheel or I would buy a brand new set and continue on.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-3794r
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
You're trying to use the 1% to disprove the 99%. Not being able to run the right gear in the car and solving it by a tire height change is hardly the norm. Even Lazer's car will benefit from a tire taller than a 26....just like Darth's will.

And I've never said that everything should be turbo'd....I'm objective enough to understand the inherent weaknesses of boost unless most of the big cube NA lovers on here who put down boost when they've never even built a proper set. They only know their brothers cousins friend who had a hacked together setup. It would be nice if they were as objective with their own NA limitations...
One day, Spider, I promise you, I'll do a boosted build and I'll do it right.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
You're trying to use the 1% to disprove the 99%. Not being able to run the right gear in the car and solving it by a tire height change is hardly the norm. Even Lazer's car will benefit from a tire taller than a 26....just like Darth's will.

And I've never said that everything should be turbo'd....I'm objective enough to understand the inherent weaknesses of boost unless most of the big cube NA lovers on here who put down boost when they've never even built a proper set. They only know their brothers cousins friend who had a hacked together setup. It would be nice if they were as objective with their own NA limitations...
I've seen you comment several places pushing turbos over na. Each has their place . I have a na 427 and happy with how it performs, still tweaking it to get more as I would with turbo. Has a shot of nitrous to go on when low 10s are not enough and I want more.

and back to why I want 26" tires na. I'll keep 4.10gears which will be close to same as 4.56 with a 28" until im ready to spray then I'll put the 28s on and run nitrous. 😉
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He runs bias ply tires as a stick car should. And a 28 kills his gear,
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Appreciate the link, but I do not go to the track on a radial. I have NT05R for daily purposes on my stock 19" wheels though. I will be using a 28" QTP with a 10" contact patch this year for the strip.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
One day, Spider, I promise you, I'll do a boosted build and I'll do it right.
I'll be waiting for this one too. Should be fun. We'll see what I do wrong with the 434 and you'll do a stage 2 lol
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 98_WS6_M6
I'll be waiting for this one too. Should be fun. We'll see what I do wrong with the 434 and you'll do a stage 2 lol
look out beast
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 11:00 AM
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I'm going to do another car and it will be turbo. No hate here,just not for my trans am.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
One day, Spider, I promise you, I'll do a boosted build and I'll do it right.
I have no doubt and not hating on your build at all

Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
I've seen you comment several places pushing turbos over na. Each has their place . I have a na 427 and happy with how it performs, still tweaking it to get more as I would with turbo. Has a shot of nitrous to go on when low 10s are not enough and I want more.

and back to why I want 26" tires na. I'll keep 4.10gears which will be close to same as 4.56 with a 28" until im ready to spray then I'll put the 28s on and run nitrous. 😉

He runs bias ply tires as a stick car should. And a 28 kills his gear,
The fact that you keep saying "turbo" says everything. I don't push turbo's. I recommend BOOST where it makes sense. There are other forms of boost besides a turbo and what is recommended is entirely dependent on their goals.

Notice his last post about what tire height hes running this year....

Originally Posted by lazerlemonta
Appreciate the link, but I do not go to the track on a radial. I have NT05R for daily purposes on my stock 19" wheels though. I will be using a 28" QTP with a 10" contact patch this year for the strip.
NP, glad you were able to put a tire on that thing. Should see some good gains.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 11:11 AM
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I want to point out a couple things here and there.

Those 2000 hp that was mentioned are all running powerglides mostly.
First gear in a powerglide tranmission is 1.82 or a 1.76.
First gear in a T56 tranmission is 2.66 ratio.
I think that makes a difference between a 26" and a 28" tire.
Must i add those 2000 hp X275 cars are a pain in the *** to tune. Ive seen guys with laptops at the track try to take away power at a given rpm to even get a 26" tire to agree with a powerglide. Most those guys are running a BOLT TOGETHER TORQUE CONVERTER that way they can change the launch of the car. Change the stator in a torque converter and the car will act differently leaving the line...

Lazar thats impressive but i see a better 60ft with a 28 inch tire
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