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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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Threaded rod? Just use the old bolt and bolt it on tight then use the new bolt and tourqe that ****** on
That seems like a fast way to rip the threads out of the crank, but ill take a look at it. what are you talking about new bolt btw? Theres no new bolt lol
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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That seems like a fast way to rip the threads out of the crank, but ill take a look at it. what are you talking about new bolt btw? Theres no new bolt lol
The crank pulley bolt is a one time use TTY bolt same deal as the head bolts. Thats why i mentioned old and new. It will not mess up any thread since its exactly the same thread pitch etc.. you just tighten the bolt to a snug fit. loosen it and install your new crank bolt to whatever the tourqe rating was plus the additional stretch as per GM
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 91parkave
The crank pulley bolt is a one time use TTY bolt same deal as the head bolts. Thats why i mentioned old and new. It will not mess up any thread since its exactly the same thread pitch etc.. you just tighten the bolt to a snug fit. loosen it and install your new crank bolt to whatever the tourqe rating was plus the additional stretch as per GM
ah im not replacing that, ive never replaced TTY crank pulley bolts in my life, especially on a press on pulley that doesnt require the bolt to keep it from coming loose. Little bit of loctite blue and torque it to spec and its never coming off without an impact gun.
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 91parkave
The crank pulley bolt is a one time use TTY bolt same deal as the head bolts. Thats why i mentioned old and new. It will not mess up any thread since its exactly the same thread pitch etc.. you just tighten the bolt to a snug fit. loosen it and install your new crank bolt to whatever the tourqe rating was plus the additional stretch as per GM
What the hell is TTY?
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 09:28 PM
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What the hell is TTY?
torque to yield, its a process of stretching the bolt to maximum torque. almost all the bolts on an engine are torque to yield. Imports have been shying away from them lately but on GM cars i know they continue to use them at the very least on the heads. Most aftermarket bolt mfg's like ARP will use a 3 step torque sequence of stretching the bolt, where as GM and other mfg's like to use degrees.
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 09:33 PM
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Oh, ok. Thanks.
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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u got to spawne this motor has to be bulletproof
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 08:48 PM
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Great info on the mods, I have an 07 SS and starting to get ready to replace intake, delete DOD, swap cam and replace HB. Getting it tuned right after.

Question on pulling the engine out, is the set up on these LS4 cars similar to the f-body?

could these drop from the bottom with the cradle?
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BackInBlack02
Great info on the mods, I have an 07 SS and starting to get ready to replace intake, delete DOD, swap cam and replace HB. Getting it tuned right after.

Question on pulling the engine out, is the set up on these LS4 cars similar to the f-body?

could these drop from the bottom with the cradle?
Honestly if you have the capability, drop the cradle and take it out that way, makes life easier. Getting the engine in tonight was 2 hours of up and down and up and down and wiggle this way and angle this way not to mention the minor modification i had to make to the frame rail to get the crank pulley bolt back in.
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Honestly if you have the capability, drop the cradle and take it out that way, makes life easier. Getting the engine in tonight was 2 hours of up and down and up and down and wiggle this way and angle this way not to mention the minor modification i had to make to the frame rail to get the crank pulley bolt back in.

Lets see the progress, and the minor modification.
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rottonj
Lets see the progress, and the minor modification.
ill snap some pics when i take the hood off tomorrow, we worked right up to 10pm and i was exhausted, modification is a minor notch in the frame rail right in front of the crank pulley bolt. Wasnt dropping the subframe an 1/8th of an inch. Damn motor would not budge an inch more even with it off the mounts to get the bolt past. lol
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 10:32 PM
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If someone could do me a huge favor with their car, I need pictures of how the battery cables are routed and where the grounds are mounted along the front of the engine and trans by the starter. Having trouble sorting this puzzle out.
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by spawne32
If someone could do me a huge favor with their car, I need pictures of how the battery cables are routed and where the grounds are mounted along the front of the engine and trans by the starter. Having trouble sorting this puzzle out.
I will try to get some pic tonight if you still need them.
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Originally Posted by spawne32
ill snap some pics when i take the hood off tomorrow, we worked right up to 10pm and i was exhausted, modification is a minor notch in the frame rail right in front of the crank pulley bolt. Wasnt dropping the subframe an 1/8th of an inch. Damn motor would not budge an inch more even with it off the mounts to get the bolt past. lol
X2, I would very much appreciate the pics of the frame rail mod. I've dropped the engine on my Camaro from the bottom twice and to me its much easier than thru the top, plus you keep most of the wiring/connections in place.

I'm also upgrading brakes and adding an in-line transmission fluid cooler.

I'm looking for a decent cam for the upgrade with close to stock LSA, maybe one close the hot cam specs but with 116 or 117 LSA, I don't want the lopy sound, car gets enough attention as it is....

Would the LS6 cam be a good upgrade?
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 11:14 AM
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Forgot to mention, I am looking at porting the heads a bit to help the new cam.
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BackInBlack02
X2, I would very much appreciate the pics of the frame rail mod. I've dropped the engine on my Camaro from the bottom twice and to me its much easier than thru the top, plus you keep most of the wiring/connections in place.

I'm also upgrading brakes and adding an in-line transmission fluid cooler.

I'm looking for a decent cam for the upgrade with close to stock LSA, maybe one close the hot cam specs but with 116 or 117 LSA, I don't want the lopy sound, car gets enough attention as it is....

Would the LS6 cam be a good upgrade?
Ill snap some pics today, don't look at LSA so much as overall overlap of the cam, that is what is going to determine your low end power and idle quality. The cam I specced has 45* of total overlap, so it should idle similar to stock. 5.3 truck cams are great for this, vinci makes alot of good low end power cams that idle good. I didn't realize until after I bought my converter that the stock converter comes in multiple different stalls, for instance I bought a JTFM at the recommendation of dave for a stock replacement, which is a 1900-2100 stall. However I could have also used the JXFM which is 2100-2300 stall, which could make a slight difference in the way the power comes in with the cam without really effecting drivability. Not to mention the fact that they are 80 bucks on rockauto for the OEM replacements from alliance rather then $150 plus core from TEP.

As far as porting the heads go, do not, i repeat, do not attempt to hand port them yourself. This is one car I would just not recommend that. Port velocity is going to be your critical feature here that is important to maintain, its not just a matter of hogging it out for max CFM. Go with a reputable CNC company, and don't go for just the largest port they offer, those ports are designed for high compression big cam cars. For instance you can get away with advanced inductions 218cc package and pickup some decent gains without over porting the intake side, but this will all rely heavily on what intake manifold you choose. An LS6 intake conversion is a must on these car's, my only reason for using the stock one right now is that i'm out of money for the budget for this car at the moment.
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 11:57 AM
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heres the camshaft overlap guide to follow

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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 02:06 PM
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Ls2 cam over the ls6 anyday
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All you had to do is was loosen the cradle bolts to hit the crank bolt.
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Originally Posted by 91parkave
All you had to do is was loosen the cradle bolts to hit the crank bolt.
Didn't want the cradle moving.
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