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Old 07-03-2006, 06:42 PM
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serial prices still apply as normal..so it would cost you the same amount of adding 1/2/3 bar respectively.....and believe the MAF versions are the same price as 1 bar
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Originally Posted by Alvin
Nice job guys,

How many tables are you able to edit?

The only thing I don't like is the need for a custom OS. With the road runner you are able to access every table in the PCM and on top of that they have it working for 98-04 LS1 PCM's Diseil and other trucks... no custom OS needed. I've actually got mine working wirelessly with bluetooth because I didn't want any cables in my vette.
It really isnt a "custom OS" that you have to have. The MAF RTT OS *ONLY* changes the RTT settings in the general tab. There are 18 tables you can edit in SD and I think there may be the same in MAF or there may be an extra one. The best part is you dont have to swap PCM's out from car to car when you tune The tables it give you for idle and part throttle are all the important ones you will need for tweaking.

Also, for those wondering, you can stop the log and it still keeps the modified values in the table so you can copy when you get done.
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Originally Posted by Phoenix 5.7
how much would it be to add RTT to my serial cable?

1 or 2 credits ($49.99 per credit)
Dont know which OS mod you want, so here is the link to the orders page:
http://www.hptuners.com/order.php

Serial interface customers have to contact sales to get a software update.

I must also warn you I have not completed every single OS modification for 1/2/3 bar. Most of the common OS's are supported and it will take me a while to get the remaining operating systems converted.

As the RTT update is free for those who already have 1/2/3 bar enhancements, you will receive the standard 1/2/3 bar for now if it's not ready and the RTT update when available.

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Originally Posted by Super Sport X2
Yes and no. It only needs to make changes to the cells you are working with, not the entire table. So its instant if you are modifying an area the engine is actually using, or a few seconds if you want to load an entire new table.

You can highlight a cell/area and hit the +/- keys to make changes, or copy paste the histogram.

All of the changes stay there until key off (PCM hard reset).

-Ken
Gotcha. So if you want to change the entire table (ve) how long does it take?

Situation - You drive for 20mins collecting data with the VE histogram in the scanner. You then do a full table "change". How soon does it take to effect the whole table? Worst case possible, what is the maximum allotted time to take effect regardless of the tables?
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Now we can all appreciate why the EIO USB was worth the wait ie black box recording, we should just be patient.

RTT even with the serial cable (plus 1 bar licence) should make everybody happy.

I first bought VCM Suite in July 2005 (v1.7) and look what has happen since.

Great work Chris, Keith, Ken

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Originally Posted by Black02SS
Gotcha. So if you want to change the entire table (ve) how long does it take?

Situation - You drive for 20mins collecting data with the VE histogram in the scanner. You then do a full table "change". How soon does it take to effect the whole table? Worst case possible, what is the maximum allotted time to take effect regardless of the tables?
Every car I have done with RTT has taken me less than 2 hours each....
it is effected immediately as soon as you change the values..either by adding subtracting multiplying using the =value controls or by copy/paste...
immediate results
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Can you do the RTT on the C5s????
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Can you do the RTT on the C5s????
Short answer yes, but you'd have to look under the OS tab to see which ones are activated...the two files I have on my home computer had RTT activated on at least the maf enhanced...one had it activated on MAF, 1 bar SD & 2 bar SD as well. They had to redue dozens of OS's and are doing more every day to get them all supported.
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
It really isnt a "custom OS" that you have to have. The MAF RTT OS *ONLY* changes the RTT settings in the general tab. There are 18 tables you can edit in SD and I think there may be the same in MAF or there may be an extra one. The best part is you dont have to swap PCM's out from car to car when you tune The tables it give you for idle and part throttle are all the important ones you will need for tweaking.

Also, for those wondering, you can stop the log and it still keeps the modified values in the table so you can copy when you get done.

So you make changes and then paste them into the tune and flash it? I get it, works alot like bi-directional controls
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yes...make changes to it in real time...when satisfied, copy and pste the values into your table in the actual tune....
write the tune and you can start working on other stuff if you so desire
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Awesome work guys.
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I just have regular ole HPT for my 00 f-body...to do RTT I need to buy a 1/2/3 bar enhancement?
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Originally Posted by cablebandit
I just have regular ole HPT for my 00 f-body...to do RTT I need to buy a 1/2/3 bar enhancement?
you have 4 options now, 1/2/3 bar SD or 1 bar MAF enhanced, but to answer your question, yes, you can only get RTT with a custom OS.
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I guess its time to go 3bar
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Originally Posted by foff667
you have 4 options now, 1/2/3 bar SD or 1 bar MAF enhanced, but to answer your question, yes, you can only get RTT with a custom OS.
What specifically does 1 bar MAF enhanced add other than the RTT over a standard GM OS?
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Looking forward to this once the 98's are supported



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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
What specifically does 1 bar MAF enhanced add other than the RTT over a standard GM OS?
That is it, just RTT. That is why I said its not your typical custom OS as that is all it does.
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Am I the only one who noticed this?!?

Originally Posted by soundengineer
in an upcoming release you will be able to let the laptop do all the work for you...just drive and let Auto tuning for RTT do its job...
the car will magically feel better and better the more you drive it if you set your parameters correctly
Now this sounds amazing! If you could automatically have your software do the RTT for you to change your VE table to always hit commanded AFR, or automatically reduce timing where you have KR, and add it where there is none.

As excited as i am about RTT, this is the real prize winning pig here.
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
That is it, just RTT. That is why I said its not your typical custom OS as that is all it does.
in addition to the TPS fuel adder and high octane table utilization that was the original reason for 1 bar support.
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Check out Hondata to get a "small" idea of what we are talking about.

BTW, Good job guys!

Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Am I the only one who noticed this?!?



Now this sounds amazing! If you could automatically have your software do the RTT for you to change your VE table to always hit commanded AFR, or automatically reduce timing where you have KR, and add it where there is none.

As excited as i am about RTT, this is the real prize winning pig here.


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