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Old 04-14-2009, 12:03 AM
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Default Pullied Cobra Vs Cam only 01 SS

my buddys Pullied Cobra...put down 465rwhp and 540rwtq..

vs my 01 MS3 camaro SS....Cam only...Stock 241 heads, stock 3.42's with bolt on's and dyno tune...I would say the dyno numbers but people will jump on my **** because their high...

anyways, last year the Cobra trapped 118-119.8 consistantly...

this is from a 65 roll...Im in 2nd, hes in 3rd...we shut down around 155

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdMOEVbRnp4

Dont mind the shitty quality...he was on the wrong side of the car.

2nd race I wasnt revving it out as high which obviously made a difference because he came around me a little quicker on the top end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwciKjN0OpE

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Man nice run so what does your cat put down???Just curious cause iwant to go with the ms3 or bigger the trex. But any how nice run. Them terminators put it down none the less.Respectful death bro
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Man nice run so what does your cat put down???Just curious cause iwant to go with the ms3 or bigger the trex. But any how nice run. Them terminators put it down none the less.Respectful death bro
well me and the owner (hes only 19, im 22) have been bashing each others ***** about this race for months...

I heard through a little birdie before our runs he was expecting to pull me pretty hard....Im pretty sure hes on the edge of his seat right now with how it turned out.

My injectors are maxed at 5800 rpms and im going through my stock catback...I have the injectors and a electric cutout to install....im hoping that should give me the edge so their will be a rematch im sure...

as far as my car with the MS3, I love it. The drivability is alot like stock..only thing is you cant cruise at 1500rpms with 3.42's...In 1st gear I can...but not any other gears,...If I stay around 2k its smooth. I have been DDing the car for about a month now with not a single issue.
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Respectable deaths man. That Cobra ran well and you were right on his ***. Videos sucked though.
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Good runs. Closer than what I thought it would be as well.

That's a bad *** sig by the way.
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Why give him the advantage with high speed rolls?
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Originally Posted by 99_Z28
Why give him the advantage with high speed rolls?
it was like 37* last night...

He wanted a 60 roll I said ok if you give me a 40...well we tried a 40 roll and I just got all sideways so I lifted...on a warmer night were going to do some dig runs and slow rolls.
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Originally Posted by kidcamaro98
it was like 37* last night...

He wanted a 60 roll I said ok if you give me a 40...well we tried a 40 roll and I just got all sideways so I lifted...on a warmer night were going to do some dig runs and slow rolls.
Don't mind him. He couldn't roll race a 96 MGT with that crappy TS/mods. LOL
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Very nice race! How much power can your car really be making if he pulled on you with a 118-119 mph car? My brother and I both make 400 rwhp (2002 Z28's) and both trap 117 mph at an ok track and 118+ at Englishtown.

As far as the high roll comments, both cars are stick's, so unless one spins, the Cobra should have a good advantage from a lower speed due to a huge torque advantage.
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Your car seems strong. Yes I want to see some lower rolls and digs. Maybe a daytime vid I couldnt see ****. And if he can drive which you cant tell if he can from a 65 roll then he should pull you easily. BTW-- I bet your car made 430rwhp?
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r u kidding me after injectors and a catback u should beat him after seeing how close it was before. a aftermarket catback or cut out will add 20-30rwhp on ur set up also if your injectors are maxed out at 5800 ur loosing alot up top and thats where the ms3 shines. also some 3.73's or 4.10's will really wake ur car up

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Originally Posted by therobman
r u kidding me after injectors and a catback u should beat him after seeing how close it was before. a aftermarket catback or cut out will add 20-30rwhp on ur set up also if your injectors are maxed out at 5800 ur loosing alot up top and thats where the ms3 shines. also some 3.73's or 4.10's will really wake ur car up
The cat-back usually isn't much of a restriction so 20-30 whp isn't likely. And if the car is running a little lean up top it is probably making more power than it would if it was richened up. Lean makes more power but it isn't very safe. It depends on how lean it is really. But no a cat-back and injectors is not going to change the outcome of that race.
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Nice races. Looks pretty normal for a stout cammed LS1 and typical pulleyed Cobra (assuming he's an alright driver).
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Your car seems strong. Yes I want to see some lower rolls and digs. Maybe a daytime vid I couldnt see ****. And if he can drive which you cant tell if he can from a 65 roll then he should pull you easily. BTW-- I bet your car made 430rwhp?
realistically I would say my car is around 430rwhp....however thats not what it put down ++++++

I want to do a dig with him but he wont do a dig...I have a **** load of suspension work under my car but im still on street tires...from a Dig my car moves out with minor tire spin on the 1-2 shift...hes NOT a good driver from a dig...but neither am I really. This is my first standard car and I have only owned it for 8 months now.
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Originally Posted by therobman
r u kidding me after injectors and a catback u should beat him after seeing how close it was before. a aftermarket catback or cut out will add 20-30rwhp on ur set up also if your injectors are maxed out at 5800 ur loosing alot up top and thats where the ms3 shines. also some 3.73's or 4.10's will really wake ur car up
Im loosing power up top my tuner said...at 5800-6800rpms when my injectors are maxed, my AFR goes from 13.1 to 12.5...so the injectors are going irrattic from being maxed and its running too rich up top....they are at 120% duty cycle from 5800+

My car was dyno tuned with the LM1 exhaust...but it was WAAAAY too loud with this cam and that exhaust
(heres a idle link...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiP-no8FxMc)

and heres it now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLhC7NwBec

Personally, WOT on the top end I did notice a little power loss going from my LM1 to my stock SLP muffler....However, my cutout will solve that
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Very nice race! How much power can your car really be making if he pulled on you with a 118-119 mph car? My brother and I both make 400 rwhp (2002 Z28's) and both trap 117 mph at an ok track and 118+ at Englishtown.

As far as the high roll comments, both cars are stick's, so unless one spins, the Cobra should have a good advantage from a lower speed due to a huge torque advantage.
thats the thing...He didnt pull on me until 125+....from 60-120 I had half a car on him and held it for a little while...so realistically he pulled me out of trap speed zones. Not sure if that makes any sence but Im guessing I should be trapping around 118-119 as it sits now.
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Whats your full setup?
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118-119 should put you around 420-430 rwhp. If you're saying that you made a bunch more than that and you're saying that your setup is all screwed up and will make more then I agree that something was up with the dyno. I agree with you that 430 sounds realistic.
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
118-119 should put you around 420-430 rwhp. If you're saying that you made a bunch more than that and you're saying that your setup is all screwed up and will make more then I agree that something was up with the dyno. I agree with you that 430 sounds realistic.
The dyno wasnt calibrated correct...the owner that did my cam install/dyno tune Talked to me about it a week later after I picked my car up...it read really high and thats why Im not saying the numbers
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Whats your full setup?
Cam only MS3...112LSA...stock heads,stock 3.42's, stock ls6 intake manifold, Ported TB, Hooker long tubes, ORY, Factory SLP Center mount exhaust etc. etc.
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