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Old 05-16-2010, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarahgto
headers??? not ls1s... just your 5.0 mustang lol
I remember when the LS1 was new and everybody talking about how well the stock exhaust manifolds flow and how theyre equivalent to short tube headers.

I think the stock headers on the 5.0 are probably a better comparison to shortys but will still have good gains going to long tubes.
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Man are there going to be some sad LS1 owners soon!!!
There have been so many sad 4.6 owners since 1997 when the Ls1 appeared!
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:06 PM
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Sad ls1 owners lol. Stock ls1 owners that dont race maybe. But a simple bolt on ls1 can run 12s easy. Its going to be good but ls1's and gm product always is on top. Thats why the ls1 still out runs all the mustangs today. Damn ford is trying to beat somthing that came out in 97..lol i find that funny
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Originally Posted by Sarahgto
Sad ls1 owners lol. Stock ls1 owners that dont race maybe. But a simple bolt on ls1 can run 12s easy. Its going to be good but ls1's and gm product always is on top. Thats why the ls1 still out runs all the mustangs today. Damn ford is trying to beat somthing that came out in 97..lol i find that funny
Mach 1's run with LS1's just fine. But i think youre forgetting about Terminator Cobras and others as well.
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Originally Posted by MauriSSio
Mach 1's run with LS1's just fine. But i think youre forgetting about Terminator Cobras and others as well.
The terminators were nice but they were overkill. Ford had to put a blower on it to stay close to the ls1! The only way mach 1 ones would stay close was to over gear it!
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Well just so you know Evolution's car has now gone 11.65 @ 118mph with no other mods done. And the cars dyno ~370rwhp stock, so why would you say they will only dyno close to 350hp stock "if that?" Have yuo not been paying attention the past couple months? :gfto:
I have been paying attention, I didn't belive what they dyno to me it was hype. Now there is a vid that I do belive he put down 370 stock. The reson I said 350hp is because stock ls1 dyno 300 to 330 bone stock. The 5.0 got beat by a stock ls1, it must have 300+ after break in 350. Now I see that evolution was not liying. I just beat a 2010 shelby 500, is the 5.0 faster, nope. But I happy that it looks to be true what the 5.0 can do. Now we have comp, before it had to be a cobra or a shelby for some comp. If was just a gt no comp what soever.
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Originally Posted by 02 wife
The terminators were nice but they were overkill. Ford had to put a blower on it to stay close to the ls1! The only way mach 1 ones would stay close was to over gear it!
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Well there wasnt an 03 camaro/firebird so its only fair to compare it to the 03 vette
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Originally Posted by MikeWS6
Well there wasnt an 03 camaro/firebird so its only fair to compare it to the 03 vette
there were still f bodys being built at the same time cobras were on the road.
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Originally Posted by jabawalkie
Don't forget the upper and lower control arms along with slicks and skinnies up front. They probably make the biggest improvement out of performance bolt-ons.
Yeah, but you don't trap 119mph with some control arms and bigs/littles. The car is obviously powerful.
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The terminators were nice but they were overkill. Ford had to put a blower on it to stay close to the ls1! The only way mach 1 ones would stay close was to over gear it!
1) The blower argument is childish and quite ricer.
2) If you knew anything about Mach 1s, or had ever driven any 4V Mustang, you would know that 4.10s/4.30s, and even 4.56s in some cases is not "over gearing" it.
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Originally Posted by MauriSSio
Mach 1's run with LS1's just fine. But i think youre forgetting about Terminator Cobras and others as well.
mach 1's run with ls1's? This is what a real ls1 does to mach 1's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTdp6qV7TUw

I had to do that lol
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Yeah, but you don't trap 119mph with some control arms and bigs/littles. The car is obviously powerful.


1) The blower argument is childish and quite ricer.
2) If you knew anything about Mach 1s, or had ever driven any 4V Mustang, you would know that 4.10s/4.30s, and even 4.56s in some cases is not "over gearing" it.
If it wasn't for the control arms and slicks, the power would have never made it to the ground. Just up in smoke.
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I've been trying to figure out what's so difficult about turning the traction control off, you press a button, and it goes away. But after reading the post about the dyno, I see that what he's referring to is the "torque management" that's built into the stock tune, just like every other 05-10 Mustang had! It senses wheel spin, and/or approaching red line rpm's, and actually starts to close off the throttle even if you have it floored. That can be easily turned off with a handheld tuner.
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Originally Posted by MauriSSio
there were still f bodys being built at the same time cobras were on the road.
There was no response to the 03 cobra is what I meant.


Anyway the gt should be faster but its still a drivers race. I have seen the new gts range from 12.8 to 13.3. Most ls1's will run those times, and since most are not stock a lid/catback should really level the playing feild. Time will tell. I say we come together and fight the evil rice burners
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Originally Posted by Sarahgto
Sad ls1 owners lol. Stock ls1 owners that dont race maybe. But a simple bolt on ls1 can run 12s easy. Its going to be good but ls1's and gm product always is on top. Thats why the ls1 still out runs all the mustangs today. Damn ford is trying to beat somthing that came out in 97..lol i find that funny
Someone is exaggerating. A lot.
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Ford had to put a blower on it to stay close to the ls1!
That's like saying "GM had to add a bigger engine to compete with Ford!"

For someone that was dead wrong about the new 5.0, you're still acting cocky.

Don't you have a long list of apologies to make?

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I have seen the new gts range from 12.8 to 13.3.
One posted in this same forum running 12.6 or 12.7s. No stock 4th or 5th gen has went there as far as I know.

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Originally Posted by z99ls1
mach 1's run with ls1's? This is what a real ls1 does to mach 1's


I had to do that lol
yeah bro, you have a REAL ls1 too bad we all dont have real ls1s

problems with that video:
1.) loud music right off the bat
2.) you drive around like a ******* tool with your hood up
3.) you kept video taping, even when you are going through a **** ton of cops. if they would have looked at the camera, youd have been fucked.
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I love my 08 C6 coupe, but bet your *** i'll be test driving a 2011 stang GT soon as they hit the floor here in west michigan, very impressive cars for chump change.
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i wish that kind of money was chump change for me
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I was thinking the same.
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can i please have some chump change
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