2 near stock '02 WS6's verse 2 '11 5.0 GT's.
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Good job guys! I find it alittle funny that the battle for stock, street supremacy should be the LS3 vs 5.0 but the 4thGen LS1s are the ones waving the Banner and saying to Ford, "You can't have it"
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I have no clue how they can be thinking a C5 Z06 is within reach. tsk tsk Lots of 5.0 owners are gonna be let down if they think along those lines.
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M6 5.0 with the 3.73 gears or better and possibly a tune to get rid of any factory limiters...I can see a stock C5 Z06 being a good race.
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Its modded LS1s against stock 5.0s genious. Why do you think its so amazing the LS1s win or barely lose? LOL
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One last thing: The WS6 had driven nearly non stop for hours and it wasnt possible for it to have been any more heat soaked- which no doubt came into affect while sitting at the line trying to line up and agree on stop points, etc. I would guess the Mustang handled the heat ALOT better than the WS6 judging by the disparity between dig and roll races? :shrug:
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So it's looking like lid and catback M6 f-bods are in the realm of stock auto 5.0's and then probably headers and a tune to be in the realm of the stock M6 track pack? Seems normal to me, the cars weigh roughly the same, so to hang we pretty much have to match HP
*edit* That's pretty impressive in the second dig, I can see the trans am jump a little before the 5.0 but it still just blows past. Nite, did you spin completely through first and hook in second, or did you spin through second as well, or spin only half way through first?
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Hey, genious, the point of my post, since it obvisouly traveled well over your head, was that the 5.0 should be matched up with the LS3 Camaro, rather than a 13 year engine and finding something this closely matched after 13 years is pretty impressive in itself. With that being said, the 5.0 has a slight advantage but the fact that this 13 year engine/technology is giving it one H*ll of a fight with a VERY close and accurate representation of what could have been 13 years ago is why. People can say track prep or gears or whatever but the bottom line is not every 5.0 that you run into on the street or track is going to be optimally optioned or conditions or equal drivers so this is a controlled display of real life. Let's compare the last year the LS1 was made(2002) for the F-Body and compare it to a 13 year old Mustang and watch what happens.
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I think it did so well from a dig because it was an automatic as well. I always see autos yanking manuals out of the hole. I can't help but think those rims on that trans am are eating up at least a half car to a full car length.
So it's looking like lid and catback M6 f-bods are in the realm of stock auto 5.0's and then probably headers and a tune to be in the realm of the stock M6 track pack? Seems normal to me, the cars weigh roughly the same, so to hang we pretty much have to match HP
*edit* That's pretty impressive in the second dig, I can see the trans am jump a little before the 5.0 but it still just blows past. Nite, did you spin completely through first and hook in second, or did you spin through second as well, or spin only half way through first?
So it's looking like lid and catback M6 f-bods are in the realm of stock auto 5.0's and then probably headers and a tune to be in the realm of the stock M6 track pack? Seems normal to me, the cars weigh roughly the same, so to hang we pretty much have to match HP
*edit* That's pretty impressive in the second dig, I can see the trans am jump a little before the 5.0 but it still just blows past. Nite, did you spin completely through first and hook in second, or did you spin through second as well, or spin only half way through first?
Also I didnt spin from the digs you cant really tell but the car was bogging down and then taking off, Ive never had that happen before and me and sticks n stones are thinking that it was the heat, I drove the car almost 2 hours straight for that race and it had little to no cool down time.
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I'm very impressed from the digs- You guys did a great job working this out and making a great video.
Looks like the 5.0, even the A6, is a good LS1 race, good job Ford-
The A6 and M6 all post very similar times and traps if I am not mistaken. The roll will always favor the M6.
Looks like the 5.0, even the A6, is a good LS1 race, good job Ford-
The A6 and M6 all post very similar times and traps if I am not mistaken. The roll will always favor the M6.
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The Z on average traps around 115mph, no reason to compare that to a 5.0.. Not to mention after 100mph it would get real ugly, real quick.
They are pretty evenly matched with an ls3 camaro and the 5.0 has an edge.
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Thats bull ****. The Cobra is quicker/faster on average than the 5.0... The Cobra isn't a race for the Z.
The Z on average traps around 115mph, no reason to compare that to a 5.0.. Not to mention after 100mph it would get real ugly, real quick.
They are pretty evenly matched with an ls3 camaro and the 5.0 has an edge.
The Z on average traps around 115mph, no reason to compare that to a 5.0.. Not to mention after 100mph it would get real ugly, real quick.
They are pretty evenly matched with an ls3 camaro and the 5.0 has an edge.
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The 5.0/ls1 comparison is much closer than the 5.0/ls6 comparison.
98% of M6 5.0 track pack M6s will not do 12.3s, period. Even your average tuned/gears auto will not do 12.3s.. I'm going to assume he had a tire and in very good air/track.
Not being a dick but if you tell someone they are wrong, try to be correct on your statements.
98% of M6 5.0 track pack M6s will not do 12.3s, period. Even your average tuned/gears auto will not do 12.3s.. I'm going to assume he had a tire and in very good air/track.
Not being a dick but if you tell someone they are wrong, try to be correct on your statements.
Nevermind:Found the video, I'l ask him what the da' was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4qeP_zICAE
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Hey, genious, the point of my post, since it obvisouly traveled well over your head, was that the 5.0 should be matched up with the LS3 Camaro, rather than a 13 year engine and finding something this closely matched after 13 years is pretty impressive in itself. With that being said, the 5.0 has a slight advantage but the fact that this 13 year engine/technology is giving it one H*ll of a fight with a VERY close and accurate representation of what could have been 13 years ago is why. People can say track prep or gears or whatever but the bottom line is not every 5.0 that you run into on the street or track is going to be optimally optioned or conditions or equal drivers so this is a controlled display of real life. Let's compare the last year the LS1 was made(2002) for the F-Body and compare it to a 13 year old Mustang and watch what happens.