C6Z vs. 500hp Turbo S2k (vid)
12-15-2010, 07:37 PM
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Please don't get your idea of a Viper owner from this raw wheel horsepower tool.
Oh and for killemall's satisfaction, there were ~11,300 Supras sold in the US from 93-98, turbo and non-turbo making it a pretty rare car. I've seen maybe 2 in about a 10 mile radius from where I live that are driven on the street. I've heard stories about someone's got a shell but I don't really count that. However, I'm sure there are some places where there's quite a few.
Oh and for killemall's satisfaction, there were ~11,300 Supras sold in the US from 93-98, turbo and non-turbo making it a pretty rare car. I've seen maybe 2 in about a 10 mile radius from where I live that are driven on the street. I've heard stories about someone's got a shell but I don't really count that. However, I'm sure there are some places where there's quite a few.
12-15-2010, 07:39 PM
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In the Des Moines metro and Ames area I know of maybe 3 total MKIV Supra's (one of which was sold to some kid in Missouri), I see Vipers everywhere (10+), and have seen maybe 8 NSX's in my day. Surprisingly I've only seen 3-4 C6Z's and C6's are relatively common in Central Iowa. This is just driving around
I guess it really does depend where you live how rare things are
I guess it really does depend where you live how rare things are
12-15-2010, 07:44 PM
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The world record for a stock 03-06 SRT10 is only a not so fast 11.5 at 123 mph set by Speedfreak....the record with just a few bolt ons and street tires is on a 11.2 at 124 set by my good friend dragon rider...
I love the car..But we disagreed on it's capabilities. It is a VERY hard car to drag race...not knocking your car..if you ran an 11.6-7 or 11.8 at 123 mph stock then thats great...And you deserve respect as a driver..But thats in the top 10%...most run low 12's or maybe squeeze an 11.9 at 119-122 mph
12-15-2010, 07:56 PM
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You really are stupider than I thought. Please, list some reasons why Vipers would win "with ease". Power isn't everything at those speeds. It's all about aero, rpms, and gearing on the big end. You act like the Viper is the end all of performance. ITS NOT. I would have a Ford GT for every reason imaginable before I had a Viper. The Viper is a shitty platform for the mile events it seems. Ford GTs and other are getting it done, and Vipers can't even make a full pass (your words). YOU ARE LETTING YOUR FANBOI STATUS GET IN THE WAY OF FACTUAL INFO.
You've really exposed yourself as a mega-fanboi and all around idiot. I guess you suffered some serious brain damage from all those times you smashed your Vipers into walls.
You've really exposed yourself as a mega-fanboi and all around idiot. I guess you suffered some serious brain damage from all those times you smashed your Vipers into walls.
You want factual info
-6 speed 1/4 mil record holder (7's)
-Dominated T1 series through the 90's
-largest engine available in a production vehicle
-Ring production car record hold (verified 7.22's not a manufactuers estimate)
-pump gas dyno record holder
-supercharger dyno record holder
-TT dyno record holder
-600 rwhp with just bolt ons NA
-11.9 at 120 mph BACK IN 1996 united states fastest stock production vehicle
-beat the zr1 is several heads up comparisons from 0-150 mph (16.4 seconds)
I dont even have to say anymore. Anyone who follows sports car knows about the acomplishments of th Viper..
I was actually talking about its downfall...The 1 mile events. For a car tht has dominated everything else..it has done poorly in comparison to the supra and gallardo as of late. The FGT as well has acomplished more...
The stupid drivetrains just cant hold th Viper tourque when they are in the upper teens for rwhp and before they can even make a clean one mile pass th cars are beaking....
it sucks....Eventully someone will figure out somthing that works and the Viper will be a force to reckon with at the 1 mile events..but as of now I think the viper is only in the 220-230 mph range while the supra/gallardo and FGT are all 240 mph and above..
I havent looked it up in months but this is what I remember...
1 mile is quickly becoming the dominant race for exotics to prove how far they can be pushed and it sucks watching the viper fail
12-15-2010, 08:36 PM
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Killemall, and all others horrible at writing - please refer to this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3URlU5ClSM
Thank you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3URlU5ClSM
Thank you!
12-15-2010, 09:19 PM
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Killemall, and all others horrible at writing - please refer to this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3URlU5ClSM
Thank you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3URlU5ClSM
Thank you!
How bout contributing something valuable to the thread....
12-15-2010, 09:32 PM
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-6 speed 1/4 mil record holder (7's) pretty sure the supra is .01 behind it, with more mph. that is down to the driver, not car.
-Dominated T1 series through the 90's NEVER HEARD OF T1
-largest engine available in a production vehicle DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL
-Ring production car record hold (verified 7.22's not a manufactuers estimate)SUCH A BIG TRACK TAKES THE DRIVER INTO ACCOUNT BIGGG TIME
-pump gas dyno record holder WHO GIVES A ****, BUT ADD PROOF
-supercharger dyno record holder WHO GIVES A ****, BUT ADD PROOF
-TT dyno record holder WHO GIVES A ****, BUT ADD PROOF
-600 rwhp with just bolt ons NA pointless, makes less hp/L than a c6z, so those extra cubes aren't so great (even though hp/L is ricer math)
-11.9 at 120 mph BACK IN 1996 united states fastest stock production vehicleCool? Is that supposed to mean something? It's a pointless fact. This is 2010.
-beat the zr1 is several heads up comparisons from 0-150 mph (16.4 seconds)MAGAZINE DRIVERS ARE ****. THEY CANNOT HANDLE THE MASSIVE TORUQE OF THE ZR1. The Vipers is much more tame in comparison.
You are still a fucktard. No one is saying the Viper isn't impressive, but it's not the end all of performance. If you seriously think the Viper > all else, you are the biggest idiot on this site.
12-15-2010, 09:58 PM
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I still believe the C6Z is one of the best performance values for this day and age but I still think that turbo S2k in the video is one bad machine that definitely deserves a lot of respect
12-15-2010, 10:24 PM
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-6 speed 1/4 mil record holder (7's)
-Dominated T1 series through the 90's
-largest engine available in a production vehicle
-Ring production car record hold (verified 7.22's not a manufactuers estimate)
-pump gas dyno record holder
-supercharger dyno record holder
-TT dyno record holder
-600 rwhp with just bolt ons NA
-11.9 at 120 mph BACK IN 1996 united states fastest stock production vehicle
-beat the zr1 is several heads up comparisons from 0-150 mph (16.4 seconds)
I dont even have to say anymore. Anyone who follows sports car knows about the acomplishments of th Viper..
-Dominated T1 series through the 90's
-largest engine available in a production vehicle
-Ring production car record hold (verified 7.22's not a manufactuers estimate)
-pump gas dyno record holder
-supercharger dyno record holder
-TT dyno record holder
-600 rwhp with just bolt ons NA
-11.9 at 120 mph BACK IN 1996 united states fastest stock production vehicle
-beat the zr1 is several heads up comparisons from 0-150 mph (16.4 seconds)
I dont even have to say anymore. Anyone who follows sports car knows about the acomplishments of th Viper..
It can make 1000 rwhp on a stock bottom. It can and has already gone in the 7's (only a handful) in the 1/4 and rips the texas mile as well.
It's an Icon really.
But none of those I have done.. as you've said many times.. none of those things you've done either. Your viper has done none of those except having the one of the largest engines in production.
I'm starting to think this is all the viper is to you..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nviB2...72D21&index=18
12-15-2010, 11:25 PM
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LOL......Yes I enjoy getting so much for such a low price point...Im far froma baller but honestly for my money I feel I couldnt have done any better...
I was seriously thinking about selling my 03 srt10...I had a guy at 40K a few months ago but I punked out....My baby is just to nice for a lousy 40K in my mind..Despite if the KBB says its only worth 43K max....
I was gonna make 10K that I was gonna use towards a snake skin green 2008 coupe viper....But even so id still be financing another 50K after the 10K down for a car what most would think is the same thing I already have...
I get were your coming from but to me it gives me so much for so little..The C6Z does as well but I feel it falls short on the rarity/exotic side and this is very important for me....Not to everyone Im sure. But I love haveing a car that people crank their knecks over....
If that means Im like Peter in the tunnel..Then you are probally right Bro....Your probally right....
I was seriously thinking about selling my 03 srt10...I had a guy at 40K a few months ago but I punked out....My baby is just to nice for a lousy 40K in my mind..Despite if the KBB says its only worth 43K max....
I was gonna make 10K that I was gonna use towards a snake skin green 2008 coupe viper....But even so id still be financing another 50K after the 10K down for a car what most would think is the same thing I already have...
I get were your coming from but to me it gives me so much for so little..The C6Z does as well but I feel it falls short on the rarity/exotic side and this is very important for me....Not to everyone Im sure. But I love haveing a car that people crank their knecks over....
If that means Im like Peter in the tunnel..Then you are probally right Bro....Your probally right....
12-16-2010, 01:50 AM
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Wrong. SW still holds the 6 speed 1/4 mile at 7.91 @ 189 (Supra) to Garth Weaver's 7.98 @183 (Viper). Vipers hold the IRS record at 7.47 @190mph but not the 6 speed record.
As for the other stuff you posted I think BBCs have held the records for dynos for Superchargers, TT setups and pump gas setups.
That is all.
As for the other stuff you posted I think BBCs have held the records for dynos for Superchargers, TT setups and pump gas setups.
That is all.
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12-16-2010, 07:26 AM
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Let me say again to the OP, though, awesome races!
12-16-2010, 02:18 PM
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You want factual info
-6 speed 1/4 mil record holder (7's)
-Dominated T1 series through the 90's
-largest engine available in a production vehicle
-Ring production car record hold (verified 7.22's not a manufactuers estimate)
-pump gas dyno record holder
-supercharger dyno record holder
-TT dyno record holder
-600 rwhp with just bolt ons NA
-11.9 at 120 mph BACK IN 1996 united states fastest stock production vehicle
-beat the zr1 is several heads up comparisons from 0-150 mph (16.4 seconds)
-6 speed 1/4 mil record holder (7's)
-Dominated T1 series through the 90's
-largest engine available in a production vehicle
-Ring production car record hold (verified 7.22's not a manufactuers estimate)
-pump gas dyno record holder
-supercharger dyno record holder
-TT dyno record holder
-600 rwhp with just bolt ons NA
-11.9 at 120 mph BACK IN 1996 united states fastest stock production vehicle
-beat the zr1 is several heads up comparisons from 0-150 mph (16.4 seconds)
12-16-2010, 03:42 PM
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