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Old 12-25-2010, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
You are exactly right. There are SOME things that help newer engines (lsx) but they are still a very basic pushrod motor. It's all in the cubic inch and flow.

And I posted that while drunk!!
its like people dont realize that stock ls heads flow just slightly less than le1 heads, i mean jesus. Of course they are gonna make more power.
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3/4 rum and 1/4 oj burns!!! Aghhh
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Originally Posted by green96ta
its like people dont realize that stock ls heads flow just slightly less than le1 heads, i mean jesus. Of course they are gonna make more power.
Then the LS1 gets new H/C/I and pulls the H/C/I LT1...
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3/4 rum and 1/4 oj burns!!! Aghhh
Kevin, you sound like a ***** drinker
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Originally Posted by green96ta
u must not know much about how an engine works, because if you did you would know that 90% of an engines power is in the top end. that is what makes the ls "superior". put a killer top end on an lt and it will run with an ls.
You are absolutely correct, I know nothing at all. Ive never built an LT or LS engine.
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6

Kevin, you sound like a ***** drinker
Bro I'm tryin, I really am. 2 hours into my drinking stoop. I'm about 2 drinks from being passed out DONE
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Old 12-25-2010, 09:49 PM
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[QUOTE=marc97taws6;14279676]Then the LS1 gets new H/C/I and pulls the H/C/I LT1...

now the winner of that battle would be who has the most cash...that could go back and forth
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[QUOTE=green96ta;14279793]
Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Then the LS1 gets new H/C/I and pulls the H/C/I LT1...

now the winner of that battle would be who has the most cash...that could go back and forth
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
He is a useless nutswinger. What do you expect?
Yeah and your vast knowledge of automobiles and cool avatar pic make you very useful to this sight. lol'z
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 916 BREDWNR
Yeah and your vast knowledge of automobiles and cool avatar pic make you very useful to this sight. lol'z
Yeah the guy is a di*k rider, he can't help it.
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I can believe it, one night I was in a friends 96 formula A4 and the kid down the street called him out for a race. We went from a 10 roll and the formula was ahead by a car until 4/D then the mach started pulling and won by a car. The formula was stock other then an 80 series flowmaster. The mach driver was wanting to race my Z28 but my alternator went out the night before.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Yeah the guy is a di*k rider, he can't help it.
That Stopsign dude seems to be following your every move around here. Better watch your back.
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Originally Posted by green96ta
yes we have. but the lt1 bashing continues. next thing you know people will be saying a cam only ls is spanking or spanked a h/c/i lt car.
I was referring to the Mach1 vs LS1 argument.
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Old 12-26-2010, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
He said low-mid 13s. If you can't run better than a 13.5, you're either at a high DA or you need lots of practice. There are several members here that have run 13.1-13.3 their first passes at the track.
Exactly.

The Mach1 and the LS1 fbody is a driver's race.
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BTW stopsign I hope you didn't trade in your 95 for that integra.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
BTW stopsign I hope you didn't trade in your 95 for that integra.
No I still have all the other cars, just picked this one up to get better gas mileage.
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Old 12-26-2010, 10:42 AM
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Da da boo boo!? Lol @ this thread. You guys are all nuts me thinks

Originally Posted by marc97taws6
There are cam-only LS1's beating H/C/I LT1's. There are a lot of variables involved and sadly when performance cars get cheap, lots of idiots can afford them and build terrible setups which give the LT1 as a motor a bad rap sheet.
This is a realistic statement.

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He said low-mid 13s. If you can't run better than a 13.5, you're either at a high DA or you need lots of practice. There are several members here that have run 13.1-13.3 their first passes at the track.
All cars are different, but I agree that the norm would be mid-lows, up here anyways.

Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Point is they don't "average" low 13's. I am a previous owner and mid 13's (sea level) is what you'll see %99.9 percent of the time. LS1's are usually 2-3 mph faster.
Probably 13.2xx is average, probably. But really, it's a moot point because whatever the average actually is, with all things including driver being equal, you're going to be able to look over and mouth the words "f*** you" to your Mustang Mach One rival, all the way down the track, and he's going to be right there to read your lips imo.

Originally Posted by necrocannibal
Oh so the top 5% LSx cars dont count? Ok I gotcha.
I didn't take it like that at all.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:33 AM
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Hey need to give the facts. STOCK vs stock

Auto LS1 vs Auto Mach 1 = LS1 just wooped ***
Auto LS1 vs Manual Mach 1= Good run but LS1 on top again
M6 LS1 vs Manual Mach 1 = LS1 just wooped *** again (given equal drivers)

Lt1 should lose to Mach 1 under all circumstances given equal drivers. I don't care what anyone says. And I don't care to hear about factory freaks I'm talking the norm and what happens on a daily basis.
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Originally Posted by eduardo
Hey need to give the facts. STOCK vs stock

Auto LS1 vs Auto Mach 1 = LS1 just wooped ***
Auto LS1 vs Manual Mach 1= Good run but LS1 on top again
M6 LS1 vs Manual Mach 1 = LS1 just wooped *** again (given equal drivers)

Lt1 should lose to Mach 1 under all circumstances given equal drivers. I don't care what anyone says. And I don't care to hear about factory freaks I'm talking the norm and what happens on a daily basis.
How did you just give facts? You just gave your opinion...which weighs nothing.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:21 PM
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Well take it or leave I don't really care. I never come on here to bs lies. Seems to me the little pony is hurt with his tail between his legs. Need I say more?
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So Eduardo, what did you LS1 run stock/close to stock?
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