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Old 12-25-2010, 04:24 PM
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Haven't we had this discussion about 10 zillion times in this forum?
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Haven't we had this discussion about 10 zillion times in this forum?
Come on, this is a GM forum. The general nut swingers tend to forget about reality
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Haven't we had this discussion about 10 zillion times in this forum?
yes we have. but the lt1 bashing continues. next thing you know people will be saying a cam only ls is spanking or spanked a h/c/i lt car.
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yes we have. but the lt1 bashing continues. next thing you know people will be saying a cam only ls is spanking or spanked a h/c/i lt car.
Arent there cam only LS1, 2s in the 10s?
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Originally Posted by green96ta
yes we have. but the lt1 bashing continues. next thing you know people will be saying a cam only ls is spanking or spanked a h/c/i lt car.
There are cam-only LS1's beating H/C/I LT1's. There are a lot of variables involved and sadly when performance cars get cheap, lots of idiots can afford them and build terrible setups which give the LT1 as a motor a bad rap sheet.
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Old 12-25-2010, 05:49 PM
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Mach I's don't "average" low 13's.




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Old 12-25-2010, 05:51 PM
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He said low-mid 13s. If you can't run better than a 13.5, you're either at a high DA or you need lots of practice. There are several members here that have run 13.1-13.3 their first passes at the track.
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Old 12-25-2010, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Come on, this is a GM forum. The general nut swingers tend to forget about reality
Enough with your moronic and useless comments please. Merry Christmas!!!
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
He said low-mid 13s. If you can't run better than a 13.5, you're either at a high DA or you need lots of practice. There are several members here that have run 13.1-13.3 their first passes at the track.
Point is they don't "average" low 13's. I am a previous owner and mid 13's (sea level) is what you'll see %99.9 percent of the time. LS1's are usually 2-3 mph faster.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Point is they don't "average" low 13's. I am a previous owner and mid 13's (sea level) is what you'll see %99.9 percent of the time. LS1's are usually 2-3 mph faster.
Learn to drive. My first time out in a Mach 1 with nothing but a catback (does nothing for power) I ran a 13.2 at a shitty track. Had I had a couple more runs to get the launch down and shifts right it would have been better. And I would consider myself an average driver.

But that is nothing suprising. You are downtalking Mustangs again. I think you are nothing but a follower.

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Arent there cam only LS1, 2s in the 10s?
im not talking your top 5 percent of cars. there are cc503 lt1 cars in the 11s. (which is awesome) im talking your average owner/builder.
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by green96ta
im not talking your top 5 percent of cars. there are cc503 lt1 cars in the 11s. (which is awesome) im talking your average owner/builder.
Oh so the top 5% LSx cars dont count? Ok I gotcha.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Enough with your moronic and useless comments please. Merry Christmas!!!
You seem quite offended by that comment. Hit you close to home?
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
Oh so the top 5% LSx cars dont count? Ok I gotcha.
i also meant the 11 second cc503 cars too smart ***. i said top 5 percent period. i didnt say top 5 percent of lsx cars did i? next time read what i write and take what i write for exactly what it says and not what you want to read into it. i said your average owner/builder. that meant for both. next time ill write it out in crayon so you can understand it.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Learn to drive. My first time out in a Mach 1 with nothing but a catback (does nothing for power) I ran a 13.2 at a shitty track. Had I had a couple more runs to get the launch down and shifts right it would have been better. And I would consider myself an average driver.

But that is nothing suprising. You are downtalking Mustangs again. I think you are nothing but a follower.
You are full of ****. I need a bone-stock Integra in my sig so I can be cool like you.
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Old 12-25-2010, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
You are full of ****. I need a bone-stock Integra in my sig so I can be cool like you.
Thats all you have to say? That one stung.

I bet you are the guy that stands behind someone and always says "YEA! What he said!!"
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Originally Posted by green96ta
i also meant the 11 second cc503 cars too smart ***. i said top 5 percent period. i didnt say top 5 percent of lsx cars did i? next time read what i write and take what i write for exactly what it says and not what you want to read into it. i said your average owner/builder. that meant for both. next time ill write it out in crayon so you can understand it.
Ok so average owner/builder LS > LT. Gotcha...

Why cant all cars be included? Top 5% of LS owners cheat?

Face it, mod for mod LS > LT just like mod for mod LS2 > LS1 just like mod for mod LS3 > LS2 just like mod for mod LS7 > LS3. I own an LS2 and know where I stand in the food pyramid, LT1 owners on the other hand are like older 5.0 owners for some reason.

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u must not know much about how an engine works, because if you did you would know that 90% of an engines power is in the top end. that is what makes the ls "superior". put a killer top end on an lt and it will run with an ls.



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Ok so average owner/builder LS > LT. Gotcha...

Why cant all cars be included? Top 5% of LS owners cheat?

Face it, mod for mod LS > LT just like mod for mod LS2 > LS1 just like mod for mod LS3 > LS2 just like mod for mod LS7 > LS3. I own an LS2 and know where I stand in the food pyramid, LT1 owners on the other hand are like older 5.0 owners for some reason.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
You seem quite offended by that comment. Hit you close to home?
He is a useless nutswinger. What do you expect?
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Old 12-25-2010, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by green96ta
u must not know much about how an engine works, because if you did you would know that 90% of an engines power is in the top end. that is what makes the ls "superior". put a killer top end on an lt and it will run with an ls.
You are exactly right. There are SOME things that help newer engines (lsx) but they are still a very basic pushrod motor. It's all in the cubic inch and flow.

And I posted that while drunk!!
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