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Old 03-30-2011 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by willizm
Whats the difference between saying you have a vtec or you have a ls1 or you have a 5.0? I see alot of guys refer to a 5.0 mustang as a 5.0
VTEC is a part on the engine, not an engine itself. That would be my guess.
Old 03-30-2011 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by The Manalishi
VTEC is a part on the engine, not an engine itself. That would be my guess.
5.0 isn't the engine itself, it just denotes the displacement
Old 03-30-2011 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by willizm
5.0 isn't the engine itself, it just denotes the displacement
Touche.
Old 03-30-2011 | 11:35 PM
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It has been 9 days hurry the f**** up with the vid lol
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
There is no such thing as "a vtec." VTEC is a variable valve timing system used on some Honda/Acura motors (most of the new ones). His Integra LS is not one of them. So it isn't "a vtec," and it doesn't have VTEC.
sorry im not into ricey cars wasnt too sure what his car was so didnt want to say somehting and be wrong bu ti was wrong anyways
Old 03-31-2011 | 04:27 AM
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Actually, GM did have the need...and didn't market it as they should IMO.
Ford didn't have the need because they were selling Mustangs like hotcakes.

Not trying to start an argument, I know you're pretty anti-Ford by reading your posts
I guess the GM's experts thought otherwise?

About being anti-ford, I'm going to come out of the closet and say I want to build a notch race car but with an LSx in it lol. Just not really impressed with the new 5.0 but then again I'm not really impressed with the performance on the 2010 SS(tanks)
Old 03-31-2011 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
It has been 9 days hurry the f**** up with the vid lol
I'd love to but the new torque arm did a number on my tranny and engine mounts , but the parts are on order.
Old 03-31-2011 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by willizm
Whats the difference between saying you have a vtec or you have a ls1 or you have a 5.0? I see alot of guys refer to a 5.0 mustang as a 5.0
Kinda what Manalishi said... it's just a system that's on many different engines. That would be like somebody with a new Mustang GT saying "I have a VCT," when somebody asks them what kind of engine they have.
Old 03-31-2011 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
I guess the GM's experts thought otherwise?
They apparently did. They went from having a pony car to not having one, to eventually having one again... The felt a "need" for something.

About being anti-ford, I'm going to come out of the closet and say I want to build a notch race car but with an LSx in it lol.
Many have done it and if your goal is to have a cool, quick car that doesn't really fit in anywhere, you can too(provided you can pay for it). Idonno why anyone would, honestly. It's not like it will be quicker than what can be done sticking with Ford power. Not only that, you can do the build with far fewer specialty parts, many of which are overpriced.

Just not really impressed with the new 5.0 but then again I'm not really impressed with the performance on the 2010 SS(tanks)
How could you be impressed with the LS series, but not the 5L? Just curious. Not to mention, if you're building a FOX platform, it isn't like the new 5L is a requirement. The 351W is quite the candidate.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun

Many have done it and if your goal is to have a cool, quick car that doesn't really fit in anywhere, you can too(provided you can pay for it). Idonno why anyone would, honestly. It's not like it will be quicker than what can be done sticking with Ford power. Not only that, you can do the build with far fewer specialty parts, many of which are overpriced.

How could you be impressed with the LS series, but not the 5L? Just curious. Not to mention, if you're building a FOX platform, it isn't like the new 5L is a requirement. The 351W is quite the candidate.
The goal is a platform that is lighter than my turd, reasonably cheap and looks good to go along with budget motor with a huge cam, big nitrous kit that will go low tens/high nines for little $$. LSx making 430rwhp cam only is nothing new, specially with junkyard 6.0's(add ARP bolts and a nice 200 shot) vs. a modified 347/331 sbf with expensive aftermarket heads/rotating assemblies/intakes manifolds etc to make similar hp. Yes, there are some 347's make more than 430rwhp but these are far and few. Another thing is how easy it would be to tune an LSx vs. sbf, better street manners, better mpg, reliability and simplicity.

Specialty parts like motor mounts and cross-member mounts are relatively cheap and can even be fabbed up for cheap.

More impressed with the LS because 10 years ago the LS was running 12's factory stock, low 12's on a tire and 11's on bolt-ons just like the 2011 5.0. Yes the 5.0 is marginally faster 10 years later and it does it with far less displacement but im just not sold specially after puppy kicking one this weekend lol.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Kinda what Manalishi said... it's just a system that's on many different engines. That would be like somebody with a new Mustang GT saying "I have a VCT," when somebody asks them what kind of engine they have.
Understand, but I can't keep track of the crap(non vtec 4 banger) vs the less crappy, but still crap(vtec 4 banger). It's the only common difference between the two engines unlike what we have with v6 or v8 mustangs and fbodies.

Besides have you seen how many different vtec engines Honda has? I need a damn reference app on my iPhone just to figure out what it could be. it's no big deal. Don't look into it to much. I just am not the guy to say "yo does that have a b16a3 in it?"
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Originally Posted by willizm
I just am not the guy to say "yo does that have a b16a3 in it?"
You should be banned for making that statement. You mean to tell me you don't keep up with all the 4 cylinder stuff?

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Originally Posted by willizm
Whats the difference between saying you have a vtec or you have a ls1 or you have a 5.0? I see alot of guys refer to a 5.0 mustang as a 5.0
Old 04-01-2011 | 09:06 AM
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Lol!!! My gf has a vtec turbo in her rdx. INSTABAN!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by The Manalishi
You should be banned for making that statement. You mean to tell me you don't keep up with all the 4 cylinder stuff?

That's understandable. But I've had a few Hondas, and when I was in HS I was into a lot of import stuff, so I know most of the engine/chassis codes and whatnot.
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
The goal is a platform that is lighter than my turd, reasonably cheap and looks good to go along with budget motor with a huge cam, big nitrous kit that will go low tens/high nines for little $$. LSx making 430rwhp cam only is nothing new, specially with junkyard 6.0's(add ARP bolts and a nice 200 shot) vs. a modified 347/331 sbf with expensive aftermarket heads/rotating assemblies/intakes manifolds etc to make similar hp. Yes, there are some 347's make more than 430rwhp but these are far and few. Another thing is how easy it would be to tune an LSx vs. sbf, better street manners, better mpg, reliability and simplicity.

Specialty parts like motor mounts and cross-member mounts are relatively cheap and can even be fabbed up for cheap.

More impressed with the LS because 10 years ago the LS was running 12's factory stock, low 12's on a tire and 11's on bolt-ons just like the 2011 5.0. Yes the 5.0 is marginally faster 10 years later and it does it with far less displacement but im just not sold specially after puppy kicking one this weekend lol.
You want to swap in a LSX in a foxbody just to run low 10s or high 9s? Your Ford knowledge is very limited. Save some pride and stick with a GM model car. (Theoretically speaking, not that I actually think you will be running those times)
Old 04-01-2011 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
You want to swap in a LSX in a foxbody just to run low 10s or high 9s? Your Ford knowledge is very limited. Save some pride and stick with a GM model car. (Theoretically speaking, not that I actually think you will be running those times)
Pshhhh your trippin'. LSX-swaps in Foxbody's are bad ***. That's like having the best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Pshhhh your trippin'. LSX-swaps in Foxbody's are bad ***. That's like having the best of both worlds.
It is infact badass...when u do it to be different or just badass. Not when u do it because u don't know how to make a Ford fast. Low 10s/high 9s would be super cheap and easy with an early model Windsor.
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A friend of mine from middle school (he's a member here) is finishing up his 6.0 notchback. It is VERY badass.
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You are friends with middle school kids? pretty sure that's illegal brah...



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