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Old 12-07-2013, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Rumor is the Cobra is supposed to be an N/A 500 HP car as well


Which I hope to god is NOT true, N/A is just a thing of the past when it comes to top of the line performance
Boy that's true. In a few years, I think blowers will be as well. I think everything will be turbo'd and small cubed. Nothing will sound a as cool as big cubed NA cars, but they'll make power. To meet EPA regs, that's what the manufactures will have to do. I mean at the heart of it, every engine is nothing more than an air pump, and if the bore size has to decrease, the only way to shove more air in is FI, and turbos are the most efficient FI out there.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
What does N/A have to do with anything when it comes to making power LoL a 427 dropping valves isn't what I'd run to but no Ford has never made a 500hp N/A production car



Has GM created a production motor to make what the Gt500 does?

I'll wait
you wont have to wait long. it's just around the corner.
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Originally Posted by 427zm
Keeping the argument simple: Why is the LS overwhelmingly used over the mod motor in drag racing, hot rod conversions, and overall street builds everywhere? A)Physical size B) ease of swap C) great bang for the buck D) durability E) All the above.

Again, I'll wait....
You answered your own question. It has all of those things. But saying "the 4.6 sucks" just because it's a little behind the LS1 when it comes to N/A street builds is simply inaccurate, BECAUSE it has the ability to hold so much more power using stock parts.
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On another soap box, is anyone ready for a 50k mustang GT? Or a 100k Z06? I think that's what both will cost by 2015. EPA bastards! Driving up our cost!
I doubt it. I don't see the Mustang GT costing more than $35k MSRP when it's released. Z06 won't cost that much either I bet, unless they are positioning it between the old Z06 and ZR1. The Corvette's rising cost has as much to do with R&D and materials than anything else I'd wager. Performance/dollar is one thing, but now that Chevy (and Dodge) are making cars that approach the OVERALL package that you get with other $100k+ exotics, the prices reflect that. Quality ain't cheap, no matter what country it comes from.
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Um no just letting you know your wrong
You can't even use YOU'RE and your wright

I stated the 2v and 4v short blocks are interchangable nothing about now that makes it a "Mod" motor.
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so now the SOHC 4.6L is the same as the DOHC 4.6L please make up your mind. You can mod any motor that has ever been made and as you said from above itllrun was referring to the DOHC 4.6L in the cobra being able to hold more power and you said that is the one he is referring to after i asked if you was talking about the famous modular motor and you said yes which means your saying the SOHC 4.6L isnt a modular motor.
WTF are you talking about? "Mod motor" refers to any 4.6/5.4. So when you ask "Is he referring to the infamous mod motor," of course the answer is yes. But he was specifically talking about the DOHC 4.6. Though the same can really be said for any of the mod motors. The blocks are capable of handling more power than the LS1.
A mod motor is any motor that has interchangable parts to tell me that the ls1 or the iron block Ls1 or any Lq motors cant handle the same power as a shitty 4.6L is like saying ford has more nascar wins then chevy or more le mans wins then chevy
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Originally Posted by fruitsalad

I'd say that's you and not me, since you're constantly having little discussions with him. Ending a debate with a not-very-clever ad hominem further proves that point.

By the way, I even own a Ford 4.6, but it's in a large sedan where it belongs.
Dont down grade me to his level he is on the same level as snake95 or autoderp
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Originally Posted by big hammer
you wont have to wait long. it's just around the corner.
It makes me sad still to think no 427. There's nothing like the sound of the LS7 WOT to 7k. Man I love it. Glad I'm building one. Well, a 434, but who's counting.
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Originally Posted by 427zm
It makes me sad still to think no 427. There's nothing like the sound of the LS7 WOT to 7k. Man I love it. Glad I'm building one. Well, a 434, but who's counting.
yes, I agree. I was hoping for a 600 hp n\a 7.0.
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but will the lt5 break the 700 hp mark?
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and will it be DOHC like the original ZR1?
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
WTF are you talking about? "Mod motor" refers to any 4.6/5.4. So when you ask "Is he referring to the infamous mod motor," of course the answer is yes. But he was specifically talking about the DOHC 4.6. Though the same can really be said for any of the mod motors. The blocks are capable of handling more power than the LS1.
A mod motor is any motor that has interchangable parts to tell me that the ls1 or the iron block Ls1 or any Lq motors cant handle the same power as a shitty 4.6L is like saying ford has more nascar wins then chevy or more le mans wins then chevy[/QUOTE]

You're officially the dumbest fan boy on this forum

4.6 has been faster than any LS based anything ....with stock block and heads ....
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
You answered your own question. It has all of those things. But saying "the 4.6 sucks" just because it's a little behind the LS1 when it comes to N/A street builds is simply inaccurate, BECAUSE it has the ability to hold so much more power using stock parts.


I doubt it. I don't see the Mustang GT costing more than $35k MSRP when it's released. Z06 won't cost that much either I bet, unless they are positioning it between the old Z06 and ZR1. The Corvette's rising cost has as much to do with R&D and materials than anything else I'd wager. Performance/dollar is one thing, but now that Chevy (and Dodge) are making cars that approach the OVERALL package that you get with other $100k+ exotics, the prices reflect that. Quality ain't cheap, no matter what country it comes from.
I'm not saying the mod sucks, just pointing out why it's used more frequently, and why GM motors continually are the racers/hot rodder/street builders motor of choice.

For the second paragraph, both will cost more due to R&D and material cost. Weight has to be reduced, and to get that done R&D and material cost go up. The base price might be 35 for the stang GT, but that's a big might IMO. The Z0 will cost base 85+and option out well over 100. Heck, the Z51 crest 72, and the Z0 will be lighter and have a different motor.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead

You're officially the dumbest fan boy on this forum

4.6 has been faster than any LS based anything ....with stock block and heads ....
now you sound like the actual dumbest fan boi on this site.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Hammer seen what you posted...Called you out because you quoted it and edited to make it seem like he said something he didn't, Posted it in 2 different threads begging for it to get attention.


Run off now troll you got an LS you need to make keep up with my lil 4.6
I posted it in 2 threads because it was a stupid thing to say and I wanted to make sure people saw it.

I don't need to "keep up" (different definitions there bud!) with your 4.6, but thank you. My LS is currently not running anyway, but my 4.6 is.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
now you sound like the actual dumbest fan boi on this site.
I just agreed for the normal person LSx is the better swap candidate but it's fact that 4.6 stock block has gone 6.0X isn't it ?
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Originally Posted by big hammer
yes, I agree. I was hoping for a 600 hp n\a 7.0.
Me too. With Cylinder deactivation I thought it could've happened, but I guess not.

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but will the lt5 break the 700 hp mark?
I'd bet its a for sure deal. There's no way they'll let Ford have the highest HP American car on the market when the ZR comes out. My guess is a twin turbo'd destroked 6.2 down to 5.5 or so. Could be wrong, regardless it'll be bad, and I'd bet a bear to tune like the GTR was for the first few years.
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I just hope gm's plans for the Camaro come to fruition--- this will put the Camaro down to 3400 lbs where it should be, and it will have the new lt1 in it. that'll help me buy one!
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
I just agreed for the normal person LSx is the better swap candidate but it's fact that 4.6 stock block has gone 6.0X isn't it ?
at what hp? we're talking power, not speed.
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Originally Posted by 427zm
Me too. With Cylinder deactivation I thought it could've happened, but I guess not.



I'd bet its a for sure deal. There's no way they'll let Ford have the highest HP American car on the market when the ZR comes out. My guess is a twin turbo'd destroked 6.2 down to 5.5 or so. Could be wrong, regardless it'll be bad, and I'd bet a bear to tune like the GTR was for the first few years.
it won't be 5.5. they'll stick with 6.2, IMO.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
I just hope gm's plans for the Camaro come to fruition--- this will put the Camaro down to 3400 lbs where it should be, and it will have the new lt1 in it. that'll help me buy one!
It'll be on the ATS chassis, so I think it'll be there. Also expect a TT V6 SS due to this.
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