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Old 07-16-2011, 12:41 PM
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Long story short I noticed a blacked out trans am on the freeway yesterday evening driving home from work...lined them up from a sixty I let him get the jump and right away pulled 2 car lengths and backed off....next run lined up from a forty, gave him the jump again I pulled 2 to 2 and a half could have been more and backed off...good runs...pulled up next to him asked him what his mods are he replied he was an auto stock...although he did have a k&n sticker on his side window which we all know is good for 10hp... I was itching for a run, I thought it would b a lot closer..Guess these gto's aren't the fat pigs everybody says they r...
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Lies, I get beat by everything in my GTO
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must have been a LT1? you just dont run quick enough to instantly pull 2 car lengths esp if he got the hit. from the 40 roll i could see it somewhat since he wouldnt have been able to downshift to 1st and would have been at the bottom of 2nd.
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Originally Posted by chriswildermuth
Lies, I get beat by everything in my GTO
lol really ?? damn...
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must have been a LT1? you just dont run quick enough to instantly pull 2 car lengths esp if he got the hit. from the 40 roll i could see it somewhat since he wouldnt have been able to downshift to 1st and would have been at the bottom of 2nd.
nah im positive it was a newer model....... ws6?? idk...keep in mind the times in my sig are on steet tires loosing traction in second..either way I thought it should have done better maybe an m6 would have been a different story..
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plus im a kick *** driver
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I agree tho something didnt feel right I know ls1 trans ams r no slouch....could have been a rebadged firebird?? The city I was driving threw is known to have quite a few muscle cars in its area..so if this is true shame on him...I doubt it though...who puts a trans am wing and badges on a firebird theyre both great cars but idk who'd do it...plus my gto is no slouch either..
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Let me rephrase that...I thought ls1 trans am were no slouch..
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It must have not been the Ram Air edition cuz those are faster
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Just so you know, it doesn't matter if it was a Formula, Trans Am, WS6 or Firehawk. Stock for stock, an LS1 is an LS1 (but you don't even know if it was, so...). Stock for stock, it just depends on the tranny (A4 or M6) and if it's an A4, whether or not it has the 2.73 or 3.23 option. M6 are standard stock with 3.42 gears.

It may of been an LT1. Who knows? You should know the difference by now, man!

And if it was an A4 as you say, maybe it was in a "dead" spot from the roll. Again, anything can happen on the street.

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my lt1 will still run with those goats... its like putting a horse on pig legs you got power but you cant move it lol yea just made that up
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that sounds like murder, nothing good about those runs. pulling 2-2.5 cars when you are stock makes it sound like you're racing an sn95 auto car.

the gtos around here, for the most part, are slow as ****. not sure if it's the driver or the car, but even the m6/header ls2 cars struggle to trap 110.
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Originally Posted by J E T
Just so you know, it doesn't matter if it was a Formula, Trans Am, WS6 or Firehawk. Stock for stock, an LS1 is an LS1 (but you don't even know if it was, so...). Stock for stock, it just depends on the tranny (A4 or M6) and if it's an A4, whether or not it has the 2.73 or 3.23 option. M6 are standard stock with 3.42 gears.

It may of been an LT1. Who knows? You should know the difference by now, man!

And if it was an A4 as you say, maybe it was in a "dead" spot from the roll. Again, anything can happen on the street.

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Im a hundred percent sure this was not an LT1 trans am it was a blacked out trans am ram air with red patches on his hood... I know my cars ive been racing cars for at least the past 6 years and attend the track atleast 2wice a month thnx though

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my lt1 will still run with those goats... its like putting a horse on pig legs you got power but you cant move it lol yea just made that up
I have a hard time believing an lt1 will hang with any ls1 gto mod for mod my friend had an lt1 camaro with bolt ons...i c them at the track run 14's to mid 13's on slicks all the time..like I said im no rookie driver...i run 13.2's on street tires in 90° weather in my ls1 goat...thats easy 12 on slicks and cooler weather prob not gonna happen in your lt1 just saying
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Yeah thats what everybody says but seems to me alot of it is driver mod...ls1 camaros and trans ams are prob 300 pounds lighter than a gto...wow big difference, maybe 3 tenths slower..ive already shaved off an easy 100..I'll admitt though the stock gto tune is ****..i gained .5 and 5mph from my tune in the 1/4 mile with time slips to prove =D
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not to mention ls1 gto's come with the z06 m112 tranny and gearing...
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your not as quick as you would like to think you are sorry to burst the bubble
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LS1 Fbodies edge out LS1 GTO's. Stock for stock, mod for mod. It's all a LS2 GTO can do to simply match a LS1 Fbody. Weights a bitch, and the IRS doesn't exactly help straight line traction either.
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I think my time slips prove other wise..like I said I travel to the track often and know what most ls1's are capable of..13.2's on street tires breaking loose in second= 12's with slicks....lets not forget the gto is rated at 350 hp and includes a z06 tranny unlike fbodies..i know exactly what I have and what im capable of..and have put many cars to shame with vids to prove so thank u sir..
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Yeah I would have to agree..they have a 300 pound advantage. A lil wieght reduction and good tune and I think the gto's right there..
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until I meet an ls1 fbodie that can prove other wise as of now the trans am I ran got completely murdered..1 for the gto's 0 for the f bodies
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lets not forget the gto is rated at 350 hp
its rated at that, but the f-body makes the same power, it was just under-rated.



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