GTP vs bolt on LS1 SS
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I know you are kidding but I beleive it. They are hard as **** to launch without DR's. Most people can't drive them. Mine has gone 11.99@115 with mods in sig(1.74 short time), yet my neighbor who has an 02 has gone 12.70@117 with headers,DR's and full exhaust. A well driven Bolt on Mach can kill one hands down with a bad driver in the C5Z.
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I know you are kidding but I beleive it. They are hard as **** to launch without DR's. Most people can't drive them. Mine has gone 11.99@115 with mods in sig(1.74 short time), yet my neighbor who has an 02 has gone 12.70@117 with headers,DR's and full exhaust. A well driven Bolt on Mach can kill one hands down with a bad driver in the C5Z.
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I didn't say it was fast.
I think I've been advocating all along that in order to take full advantage of the intercooler a tune is needed. Also the intercooler allows you to run a smaller pulley.
In the 3800 arena there is no one who knows what they're doing that would just strap an intercooler on and leave it at that. Like I TRIED to explain earlier... for people doing an intercooler they've already taken the steps necessary to change boost and timing on the fly through the use of a modular pulley system and a tuner.
I think I've been advocating all along that in order to take full advantage of the intercooler a tune is needed. Also the intercooler allows you to run a smaller pulley.
In the 3800 arena there is no one who knows what they're doing that would just strap an intercooler on and leave it at that. Like I TRIED to explain earlier... for people doing an intercooler they've already taken the steps necessary to change boost and timing on the fly through the use of a modular pulley system and a tuner.
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I was joking but seriously I've driven a car that torque steers. I feel I would wreck with a FWD car and torque steer over a RWD car with the *** end getting loose. Maybe I'm just not used to torque steer but that stuff sucks.
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LOL.....
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Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
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You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
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Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
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You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
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LOL.....
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Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
Page 3:
Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
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LOL.....
Page 3:
Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
Page 3:
Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
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LOL.....
Page 3:
Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
Page 3:
Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
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LOL.....
Page 3:
Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
Page 3:
Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
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LOL.....
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Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
Page 3:
Hey guys, I picked up 50Rwhp by swapping springs/push rods in my Trans Am and nothing else.
Page 76:
You guys are SOOOOO STUPID!!!! Of course I added a cam and a tune with it so I could take advantage of the springs and pushrods. As well as a tune. But the springs and push rods gain was UNREAL!!!!
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I know what you were saying... But what you and Fury were saying weren't exactly the same.
That was pointed at him more than you. When talking to people being touchy on a subject it is always a good thing to assume people DON'T know that you are talking about the other mods to make that mod worth while. Especially when it isn't on a very well known platform.
We can ALL agree that JUST an IC swap is NOT going to pick you up 50Rwhp, not even close. We can also ALL agree that an IC swap along WITH a smaller pulley and a retune very well could net you 50Rwhp.
I by no means think that Fury started the conversation this way. He 2 stewpid.
That was pointed at him more than you. When talking to people being touchy on a subject it is always a good thing to assume people DON'T know that you are talking about the other mods to make that mod worth while. Especially when it isn't on a very well known platform.
We can ALL agree that JUST an IC swap is NOT going to pick you up 50Rwhp, not even close. We can also ALL agree that an IC swap along WITH a smaller pulley and a retune very well could net you 50Rwhp.
I by no means think that Fury started the conversation this way. He 2 stewpid.