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Old 02-06-2012, 01:28 AM
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I know i know. I drive a talon...
But ls1tech seems to be one of the only online forums that is constantly buzzing with stuff, and is a site full of all the cars i want to beat so, i am here.

Heres a list of mods

95 TSI talon
FWD
rebuilt 2.0 motor
20g turbo
3 inch dump
stock internals just new

e85
tuned by me on DSMlink which is basically a piggyback, but a very in depth and fully capable one.

in this run i was running 25psi falling to 20psi.preturbo leaks. but no excuses its how i ran the car so.
Im ESTIMATING. im in the 330-360whp range. (hard to say because of boost loss etc.) but ive never been to a dyno, this is all airflow/fuelconsumption/IDC etc. benchracing BS. lol


C6 LS3 Vette
Intake
longtubes
Tune
430rwhp

I will shortly be on 28psi ( already fixed the preturbo stuff) and will hopefully be running him again.
40ish mph rolls hes honking.

no speed limits were broken, computer generated speed.
Id love to run anyone with an ls1/lt1/ls2/ls3 or stock ls6. (i dont think on 28psi im coming anywhere near ls7s so.)
Not a ricer just chose 4 cylinders and a turbo over 8. Never had enough coin in my pocket to buy a ls1 car outright so. lol

LSx cars are fast, so for me to be within 4 cars of one makes me feel pretty happy lol. should be alot closer when on 28psi.

sorry for the camera quality on the 2nd one.(girlfriend)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfNLxqrTWvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3bN3DE-Li0




If u guys want me to take it off or w.e ill delete it since I dont drive a lsx car, but it is a ls3 in the video so.
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Solid runs there
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BTW i dont know if u guys compare xxmph-xxmph times based on datalogs. but my 70-90 on 24psi is 2.69xxx

a 430rwhp c6. is comparable to what in a Fbody? (trying to set up some good races for your viewing pleasure lol)
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Not hating on your car at all.You put together a good thread with daytime videos so congrats on that one. He sure did freight train you though lol. Dig runs next time you probably would have done a little better.
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lol. not saying he didnt freight train me at all lol. i mean hell prolly 60+whp more, in a car that only weighs maybe 400 more?... (my dsm is a 2900lb car) i was just happy to make it somewhat a race instead of a flyby lol.
and as for digs lol.... im a FWD not awd ;( lol.
he said he trapped i think 116 in the 1/4. seems kinda low? i thought i heard them trapping that stock but i am probably mistaken.
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I don't know why your putting yourself down so much, there are plenty of people on here who don't own LSx cars. Just becuase you don't own an American car doesn't mean we think your a ricer! Lol.

You seem like you have a good head on your shoulders and some common sense. We're only mean to the people who act like jackasses haha. Anyways

Your car seems to run well for what power you have. I like the daytime vid, why was the sound so fuzzy though? LS3 C6's are pretty quick, and have good top end. He did pull you pretty good lol.

Looking forward to the run on 28 Psi. Honorable death!
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He does have an American car.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
He does have an American car.
I know, I meant generally speaking
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Chrysler FTW lawls.

sounds was fuzzy because of a few things..
1. Android phone
2. solid motor mounts with the 3 inch exhaust dumped directly underneath me.

just figure id cover my bases on the nonls1 stuff first lol.
i like to race, talk about racing, get faster, and beat things i didnt once stand a chance against.
it seems in the "racing" world. the LSX car is the given medium lol.
"i beat a turbo honda... oh thats cool...."
"i put 2 cars on a H/C/I F body that dynoed 405whp"...OHHH. i know how fast you are now lol.
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Originally Posted by NotlS1
Chrysler FTW lawls.

sounds was fuzzy because of a few things..
1. Android phone
2. solid motor mounts with the 3 inch exhaust dumped directly underneath me.

just figure id cover my bases on the nonls1 stuff first lol.
i like to race, talk about racing, get faster, and beat things i didnt once stand a chance against.
it seems in the "racing" world. the LSX car is the given medium lol.
"i beat a turbo honda... oh thats cool...."
"i put 2 cars on a H/C/I F body that dynoed 405whp"...OHHH. i know how fast you are now lol.
Yup I understand that, we like diversity on here too! You'll find a couple other members with Talon's as well. And btw a H/C/I LS1 better be making more than 405whp or something is wrong
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well lol i guess i have some reading to do lol.
i have a friendly race with a friend whos on here.
ls2 gto boltons gears 364whp i think.
if i can beat him. ill be happy lol. i just hope its not a long shot. lol
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I bet your girlfriend wishes she could have been taping from the Vette.



Good runs though, bring more ammo to the fight next time!
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That was a whooping. Like a 1 second+ in the 1/4 mile difference whooping. You had best take on bolton only LS1 fbodies (fbodies are the camaro's and firebirds from 2002 and earlier). It might seem like you weren't that far off from matching him in the video, but trust me when I tell you that you are that far off from matching him.
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Originally Posted by NotlS1
Chrysler FTW lawls.

sounds was fuzzy because of a few things..
1. Android phone
2. solid motor mounts with the 3 inch exhaust dumped directly underneath me.

just figure id cover my bases on the nonls1 stuff first lol.
i like to race, talk about racing, get faster, and beat things i didnt once stand a chance against.
it seems in the "racing" world. the LSX car is the given medium lol.
"i beat a turbo honda... oh thats cool...."
"i put 2 cars on a H/C/I F body that dynoed 405whp"...OHHH. i know how fast you are now lol.
you have a daily driver that's fun. People on here are pretty cool. Alot of people with DSM dont like me/envy me but fuckem! I'll help you get to your goals lol. Hit me if you have any questions.
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well sticksnstones. i know lol it was definately a wooping. i believe i was only logging in the 35lbs/min of peak airflow on these runs. which is a big difference from my normal 39-40lbs/min of airflow at 25psi, when it holds steady all the way. so i shall rematch(if he will) and see what 5lbs/min of airflow(possible 40-50hp) can do.
and thanks apocalypse
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i think now that youve fixed the issues and able to run him again it will be a close race. I know in the vid you posted as mentioned above 4 cars is a whoopin but i still think you will do really well 2nd time around. Ive gone against a stock LS3 M6 with me having full bolt ons and 75 shot and was able to pull about 1-1 1/2 cars. They are blazing fast no doubt and full bolts ons, just hard to beat. I give you respect because even though you lost you posted it and its a clean vid either way good job OP.
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Originally Posted by NotlS1
I know i know. I drive a talon...

Not going to hold it against you!

Not a ricer just chose 4 cylinders and a turbo over 8. Never had enough coin in my pocket to buy a ls1 car outright so. lol

I appreciate your modesty. However, if you really want an LS1 car, save up. At least you have a toy whereas I'm peddling around in this gas hog for a few more years until I graduate

If u guys want me to take it off or w.e ill delete it since I dont drive a lsx car, but it is a ls3 in the video so.

You did exactly what you were supposed to do. Street Racing & Kill Stories with minimal BS lol
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He does have an American car.
Normal, IL is in America?
Originally Posted by LS1rob00
And btw a H/C/I LS1 better be making more than 405whp or something is wrong
Agreed. Heck there are some cam only LS1's throwing down near 400rwhp
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Your ahead of over half the kill story section in terms of posting in that you have video evidence, in day light, with a camera actually pointed in the general direction of a race that is occuring.
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haha. yeah i appreciate good footage. tx2k11 i had tons of footage. only 1/4 of it made my cut lol into 2 videos totalling 10 minutes.

talked to the guy, may be a race this week.
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Another thing fix them Damn boost leaks lol. On a stock 14b I was making 250 whp and 275ft/lbs at 17psi on 93oct. A 20g at 25psi on e85 should be close to or at 500whp.


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