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Old 05-22-2013, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GtoSpd
Embarrassment of posting what? I don't remember talking about porting either. I mean, I'll give you my opinion on it. I think its about as useful as a damn php spacer. It doesnt hurt, but its not going to change your ET by more than a tenth if that much.

Maybe you should've tried one of the tail pipe whistler things? Back pressure yo!
Let's look at this. With almost identical 60fts the l/ts went 2.2 mph faster and .23 tenths faster but your are right they want even change it by a tenth lol. Keep sniffing that paint man

11/28/10 1.695 7.780-89.58 10.148 12.150-112.68 LTs
03/20/10 1.692 7.925-87.40 10.347 12.388-110.48 Stock manifolds



Or you can look at the best for both

1/4 mi.....12.092 @ 113.45 Lts vs 12.304-110.94 with stock manifolds

2.5 mph and over 2 tenths faster

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Old 05-22-2013, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Yep you answered my question.
So let me get this straight you say optimal gears for a Bolton ls1 is 3.73s? Optimal gerars for a bolton 01 cobra is lets say 4.30s. So you think the car going from 3.27s to a 4.30. Is not going to pick up more then a car going from a 3.42 to a 3.73?
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by automach1
Let's look at this. With almost identical 60fts the l/ts went 2.2 mph faster and .23 tenths faster but your are right they want even change it by a tenth lol. Keep sniffing that paint man

11/28/10 1.695 7.780-89.58 10.148 12.150-112.68 LTs
03/20/10 1.692 7.925-87.40 10.347 12.388-110.48 Stock manifolds



Or you can look at the best for both

1/4 mi.....12.092 @ 113.45 Lts vs 12.304-110.94 with stock manifolds

2.5 mph and over 2 tenths faster
I swear you can't get any dumber. Look at the dates, those results were ran months apart! Ryan (rygi) was known for improving every time he hit the track. Is that really the best you can do? Real proof? Bolt ons out side of an O/R pipe do VERY little for Machs. Deal with it.
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Originally Posted by automach1
So let me get this straight you say optimal gears for a Bolton ls1 is 3.73s? Optimal gerars for a bolton 01 cobra is lets say 4.30s. So you think the car going from 3.27s to a 4.30. Is not going to pick up more then a car going from a 3.42 to a 3.73?
No. Both engines make power completely different.
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Originally Posted by GtoSpd
I swear you can't get any dumber. Look at the dates, those results were ran months apart! Ryan (rygi) was known for improving every time he hit the track. Is that really the best you can do? Real proof? Bolt ons out side of an O/R pipe do VERY little for Machs. Deal with it.
Obviously the air may have been a little better or worse but results are results. He said it himself that even after along period between tracking the car it was still much faster with longtubes. Best I can do? lol It is real world results that come from a credible non bias source. So your mach mada 308std with boltons yet there are machs wit full boltons making 340+std. Yea let me tell you. Nothing outside of a xpipe will make power on a mach

I hope you are trolling. If not you are giving Morbid a run for his money on being the biggest dumbass in the S/S of MF.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
No. Both engines make power completely different.
True the 4v makes peak power at a much higher rpm. Further explaining why a gear change in the cobra would be a night and day difference.
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Originally Posted by automach1
True the 4v makes peak power at a much higher rpm. Further explaining why a gear change in the cobra would be a night and day difference.
No, the mach has a 5 spd trans vs a 6 spd trans. Comparing apples to oranges.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
No, the mach has a 5 spd trans vs a 6 spd trans. Comparing apples to oranges.
No ****. So are you saying that a going from a 3.42 - 3.73 is going to more effective then going from a 3.27 -4.30 regardless of the trans?
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A 4v makes peak much higher? Smh
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Originally Posted by automach1
No ****. So are you saying that a going from a 3.42 - 3.73 is going to more effective then going from a 3.27 -4.30 regardless of the trans?
Derp, the trans gearing for a 3650 will be shorter then the gearing for the t56. I mean **** 5spd mach's come with 3.55's and still are slower than LS1's with the longer trans and gear.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
A 4v makes peak much higher? Smh
Yes the LS1 makes peak power at 5200.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
A 4v makes peak much higher? Smh
Does it not?
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Derp, the trans gearing for a 3650 will be shorter then the gearing for the t56.
Derp, Doesn't matter you are still adding a ton of gear.
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Originally Posted by automach1
Derp, Doesn't matter you are still adding a ton of gear.
No ****. Derp. When you add gear you don't change shift points you just change MPH per gear. If the 3650 is SHORTER than the T56 and it has a 3.27 gear out back it doesn't matter the gearing is still shorter aka it would accelerate faster.

Your argument would be plausable if both cars had a T56 and one had 3.27 gears and the other 3.42. Thats not the case here.
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Originally Posted by automach1
So let me get this straight you say optimal gears for a Bolton ls1 is 3.73s? Optimal gerars for a bolton 01 cobra is lets say 4.30s. So you think the car going from 3.27s to a 4.30. Is not going to pick up more then a car going from a 3.42 to a 3.73?
Depends on what your trying to do. 3.90's would be optimal for drag racing.....3.73. for street racing.
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No, the mach has a 5 spd trans vs a 6 spd trans. Comparing apples to oranges.
It's no use adam.....he don't understand gearing. He's not bright enough to figure out that the cobra/mach actually has more gear until 3rd gear even with 3.27's. 3rd gear is about a wash with there being about .1 difference.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Yes the LS1 makes peak power at 5200.
5400 from what I've seen......just splitting hairs a little.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
It's no use adam.....he don't understand gearing. He's not bright enough to figure out that the cobra/mach actually has more gear until 3rd gear even with 3.27's. 3rd gear is about a wash with there being about .1 difference.
He's just trying to under play the 4v cars like he always does to put it on a pedistal.
Lol ive known **** like this since HS, when i was fooling with hondas.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
5400 from what I've seen......just splitting hairs a little.
Yeah i agree, around that area. 5400-5500. i was just going by the motortrend info. Which sparked automach's butthurt.

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Originally Posted by adamantium
Great article

I remember that test, I have that mag somewhere. That car did not have any of the SLP performance parts on that were optional either. Woulda been even worse if it did.
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LMAO at this thread. How do you fellas earn a living arguing over the internet all day?!
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I remember that test, I have that mag somewhere. That car did not have any of the SLP performance parts on that were optional either. Woulda been even worse if it did.
Actually that test car came optioned with the SLP Muffler/Center Mount Exhaust, which isn't worth much more than the stock muffler.
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