Bolt on 5.0, beats 4th gen 427 stroker camaro SS
03-03-2014, 05:24 PM
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volumetric efficiency is basically 100% useless in the real world unless the govt mandates maximum displacement legislation.
03-03-2014, 05:27 PM
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Which is all fine and good...but the extra 1/2 horsepower per cubic inch just MAY make up for a 50lb difference in engine weight and a little more difficulty with packaging. Seeing as Ford designs their vehicles around these "ginormous" engines, packaging is out of the way, so that leaves us with what? Oh...it'll take an extra 10 cubic inches to eliminate the deficit caused by the "heavy" modular design. An excellent argument, given that the nearest Ford/GM competitive products already have an ENORMOUS gap in displacement...in favor of GM no less.
03-03-2014, 05:27 PM
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lol
03-03-2014, 05:30 PM
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03-03-2014, 05:34 PM
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[quote="Johnnystock;18060016"] Lol the new 5.0 Coyote engine is a lot better than the LS1
Originally Posted by MAC";18059673]The 5.0 is a better engine then the ls1[/quote]
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03-03-2014, 06:44 PM
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Well I say RED HEADS with green eyes are the hottest chicks on earth and NO OTHER CHICKS ARE WORTH HAVING! My car is faster than your car, my dog is uglier than your dog
And yes... My dad is stronger than your Dads and my big brother is both a complete ******* and if you touch him 'Ill kihl ya!'
Then be the FACTS!
Oh yeah... one more thang: FORD SUCKS!
And yes... My dad is stronger than your Dads and my big brother is both a complete ******* and if you touch him 'Ill kihl ya!'
Then be the FACTS!
Oh yeah... one more thang: FORD SUCKS!
03-03-2014, 07:14 PM
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C'mon, with all the hard googling you've been doing, you can certainly do better than that...
Assuming these numbers are correct, the BB engines are actually SMALLER than the mod motor:
http://www.onallcylinders.com/2013/0...popular-swaps/
:facepalm: *cough corvette cough*
Arn't you the one always trying to convince people you are not a mustang fanboy? Why are you going out of your way to defend what is obviously the bigger, heavier engine of the two? I have a feeling that if it were the other way around your argument would be very different.
Assuming these numbers are correct, the BB engines are actually SMALLER than the mod motor:
http://www.onallcylinders.com/2013/0...popular-swaps/
:facepalm: *cough corvette cough*
Arn't you the one always trying to convince people you are not a mustang fanboy? Why are you going out of your way to defend what is obviously the bigger, heavier engine of the two? I have a feeling that if it were the other way around your argument would be very different.
Like you just know the physical dimension of all these motors off the top of your head. As far as "convincing" people that I'm not some fanboy, I have no need for that. The intelligent and open-minded people on this forum, of whom there are many (though that number seems to be decreasing daily) know that if anything, I am a Corvette lover. The Ford OHC motors aren't exactly the pinnacle of swap-ability into other platforms, but they are still solid motors w/ good heads and strong blocks. The cars that they were designed to go into hold them with no difficulty (though as mentioned, if you need to do top-end work it's probably easier to just pull the engine out). For swapping purposes, of course LSx engines are going to be a better choice...but since nine times out of ten we are talking about the motors in the cars they came in, that is not as big a deal as you make it out to be.Volumetric efficiency is very useful in the real world as far as technological progression is concerned. Working on volumetric efficiency is what produced OHC and OHV motors in the first place, and as the focus on emissions (which isn't just mpg, btw) grows you will see more companies working on developing smaller OHC-based/4V valvetrains. The cam-less "Free Valve" tech that Koenigsegg is working on seems really promising for engines moving forward in the coming 3-5 years. Personally, I'd love to see Ford develop an all-new OHC V8 that isn't based on the common bore-spacing/deck height design of the 4.6/5.4/5.0. I would like to pose a question though; if bigger displacement is always better, and since the LS-based motors are all the same size, why do they have 4.8/5.3/6.0/6.2/7.0 variations? And that question is only partially smart-***, btw.
03-03-2014, 07:23 PM
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Volumetric efficiency is very useful in the real world as far as technological progression is concerned. Working on volumetric efficiency is what produced OHC and OHV motors in the first place, and as the focus on emissions (which isn't just mpg, btw) grows you will see more companies working on developing smaller OHC-based/4V valvetrains. The cam-less "Free Valve" tech that Koenigsegg is working on seems really promising for engines moving forward in the coming 3-5 years. Personally, I'd love to see Ford develop an all-new OHC V8 that isn't based on the common bore-spacing/deck height design of the 4.6/5.4/5.0. I would like to pose a question though; if bigger displacement is always better, and since the LS-based motors are all the same size, why do they have 4.8/5.3/6.0/6.2/7.0 variations? And that question is only partially smart-***, btw.
03-03-2014, 08:10 PM
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No, actually I don't buy something unless I get a great deal...But even with the rebates and all that stuff Ford gives out, the car is still a lot of $$ for what you're actually getting. They're neat and all for younger guys that may be able to afford them, but even the almighty GT500 has a bit to be desired. Don't get me wrong, do think they have an outstanding engine going on now and it does have a lot of potential, but at the end of the day, I'm just as content with my 10 year old GTO.
btw - came real close to getting a 2012 saleen convertible a few months ago and really did like it a lot...just for the $$ though, naw.
btw - came real close to getting a 2012 saleen convertible a few months ago and really did like it a lot...just for the $$ though, naw.