Bolt on 5.0, beats 4th gen 427 stroker camaro SS
03-03-2014, 09:59 AM
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Your wanting to compare a 5.4L to the ls1...
Stop tryn to twist **** and stop crying.... be a man and take it. That 5.4L is comparable to the ls7.
But because you wanna twist **** and make comparisons that shouldn't be compared im still waiting on you to tell me how great the 5.4L is compared to the 572?
Stop tryn to twist **** and stop crying.... be a man and take it. That 5.4L is comparable to the ls7.
But because you wanna twist **** and make comparisons that shouldn't be compared im still waiting on you to tell me how great the 5.4L is compared to the 572?
Btw, I'm not a Ford guy. I'm just a car guy with no loyalty to a certain brand.
03-03-2014, 10:10 AM
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Islander just think about it ford uses an OHC engine which is able to rev higher thus making more power with less cubes. Hell the Ferrari 458 is making damn near 500hp with less cubes than an ls7 vette and with less cubes than the 4.6Las well 
HP = trq ×rpm/5250
http://www.reliance.com/mtr/flaclcmn.htm
So if you can rev higher you make more power
HP = trq ×rpm/5250
http://www.reliance.com/mtr/flaclcmn.htm
So if you can rev higher you make more power
03-03-2014, 10:19 AM
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Islander just think about it ford uses an OHC engine which is able to rev higher thus making more power with less cubes. Hell the Ferrari 458 is making damn near 500hp with less cubes than an ls7 vette and with less cubes than the 4.6Las well
HP = trq ×rpm/5250
http://www.reliance.com/mtr/flaclcmn.htm
So if you can rev higher you make more power
HP = trq ×rpm/5250
http://www.reliance.com/mtr/flaclcmn.htm
So if you can rev higher you make more power
One uses cubes and the other one uses technology. There is give and take between both methods.
So, are you saying that it isn't fair to GM?
03-03-2014, 10:25 AM
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No islander i aint all im saying is displacement is a mute point now a days this isnt the 60s 70s or 80s any more where you truly needed more displacement to get more hp. And ive been say GM and Ford has different ways to get the same hp
03-03-2014, 10:30 AM
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I think Islander has the right mind set. Each company will make power how they want. Every engine has its strengths and weaknesses due to these preferences. We should just appreciate all engines equally and respect car guys whether or not they follow one engine or the other. Tolerance.
03-03-2014, 10:43 AM
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I didnt know that buy im just doing what your ford bros like to do..that is make it seem like their engine is at a disadvantage. You just catch things a lot better than some GM guys
It first debut in 1912 Peugeot is that what your talking about?
It first debut in 1912 Peugeot is that what your talking about?
03-03-2014, 10:55 AM
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03-03-2014, 11:27 AM
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Yes it is more efficient and you know exactly what im arguing. I have been saying what you have been saying. Idk why your arguing with it. My argument with Auto is that he shouldn't compare the gt500 engine (with out the s/c) to the 4th gen SS. It should be compared to the Z28 engine. Its just like when you ford guys got all butt hurt when i compared the zr1 to the 13 gt500 considering they make roughly the same power and yet yall said that wasn't fair nor a correct comparison. Well auto is wrong on his comparison get over it. It goes both ways you can not make up stipulations that make ford always win in the end. But again we could talk about just how good Ford is doing in the pro racing leagues ie NASCAR, LE MANS, NHRA DRAG RACING etc... if you want
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03-03-2014, 11:30 AM
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Which btw islander ford is loosing badly in NASCAR, and the LE MANS but ford beats GM in the Drag racing department with the Cobra Jet vs COPO which ill give you that but idk why they dont use the 572 or a 632 after all its a fn drag race and they have the money to do it!!!!!
03-03-2014, 12:05 PM
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Don't drive your car in the rain = race car
God forbid I don't want the idiots on the road running into me when I have a car that's more expendable Hio is just that but hurt my car is 10 times the street car his is lol
03-03-2014, 12:15 PM
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So your point s what......It takes a built stroked 5.4 to do what a stock or cam only ls7 can do? I would also say your talking out your *** on the pump gas part. You're starting to show your inexperience.
You like them so well go buy one and build it. That's where **** gets real. All these guys on here yakkin have not did that yet. Put you money where your mouth is.
Auto showed he couldn't. He jumped ship on that pos n/a 4.6 he was building........He was gonna wear me out with it too. So far his boosted 5.4 has yet to wear me out. That's the proof I see.
You like them so well go buy one and build it. That's where **** gets real. All these guys on here yakkin have not did that yet. Put you money where your mouth is.
Auto showed he couldn't. He jumped ship on that pos n/a 4.6 he was building........He was gonna wear me out with it too. So far his boosted 5.4 has yet to wear me out. That's the proof I see.
My old motor is still going to out et the racecar ls6
I have had the car for ~15 months and it is already faster then your racecar camero.
03-03-2014, 12:21 PM
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Yes it is more efficient and you know exactly what im arguing. I have been saying what you have been saying. Idk why your arguing with it. My argument with Auto is that he shouldn't compare the gt500 engine (with out the s/c) to the 4th gen SS. It should be compared to the Z28 engine. Its just like when you ford guys got all butt hurt when i compared the zr1 to the 13 gt500 considering they make roughly the same power and yet yall said that wasn't fair nor a correct comparison. Well auto is wrong on his comparison get over it. It goes both ways you can not make up stipulations that make ford always win in the end. But again we could talk about just how good Ford is doing in the pro racing leagues ie NASCAR, LE MANS, NHRA DRAG RACING etc... if you want
Has to do with classes, nothing else.
03-03-2014, 12:46 PM
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If you're truly trying to keep stipulations out of the argument, then why do you insist upon "stipulating" that a 330ci be compared against a 427ci engine? Displacement is ALL that matters in the argument of output efficiency. I think you may be missing the point...a lot of points actually...
03-03-2014, 12:59 PM
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If you're truly trying to keep stipulations out of the argument, then why do you insist upon "stipulating" that a 330ci be compared against a 427ci engine? Displacement is ALL that matters in the argument of output efficiency. I think you may be missing the point...a lot of points actually...
03-03-2014, 01:01 PM
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