Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Everything in the engine is gm except the rockers and valve springs now.

BTW that dyno is pre rockers pre valve springs........sucks to eat crow I bet.

Originally Posted by audacious nick

Bro, remember: if one person built a NA 5.4l to make a ton of power, anyone can do it. That's why we see tons of 500+rwhp NA ls1s

Originally Posted by "MAC"

Oh and auto stop calling the 4.6 or 5.4L little its not the engine is bigger then the ls1/6. Both engines are designed differently which gives different cubic inches. While giving around the same bhp and trq numbers. GM would make an OHC engine if they thought that they needed to but apparently they don't need to. How ever i will admit i figured the new 5.0 would have made them do it considering all they success it has

Originally Posted by big hammer

the 5.0 is an inferior engine compared to gm and dodge, it's just in a better drag racing platform.

Originally Posted by "MAC"

Hio i seen some of that and i also see some of it on the GM side as well. I hate ford with a passion but i still give credit where credit is due. Not saying you don't i seen where you have but some people just don't or like to compare none comparable engines or cars. (YES im guilty of that too)

Originally Posted by Lawhead

Nothing about your engine until you brought it which in fact you lied... Only reason the dyno picture was in the response is because you multi-quoted I didn't say a single thing about your dyno sheet......

Originally Posted by Lawhead

Here is where you're getting owned and lied

Originally Posted by big hammer

and tons of high hp n\a 5.4's everywhere.

Originally Posted by big hammer

and tons of high hp n\a 5.4's everywhere.

Originally Posted by Lawhead

Already quoted it for ya....

Shall I quote it again? I'm sure you'll squirm out of it saying "Inside" the engine but always cry about guys putting better blowers on their cars

Originally Posted by Lawhead

Already quoted it for ya....

Shall I quote it again? I'm sure you'll squirm out of it saying "Inside" the engine but always cry about guys putting better blowers on their cars

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Pretty much

Me...as usual.

Comprehend much???? Look at what your incestual brother asked me.

And no you haven't.....but you have had the best weather of your year to do it.

Would like to compare stock atmosphere's?

I didn't jump all over you....I give you some ****. Nothing serious. The point being that 5.4 is just more comparable to a ls6. The ls7 has them both out classed. Just the way it is.


Yea.....we can tell by how well your n/a 5.4 runs. ....lmao Your boosted 5.4 is not as quick as my n/a ls6. It didn't take much of ******* with a n/a mod motor for you to jump ship.

You see GT......when these guys talk this kind of **** w/o backing it up on their own behalf the ownage stays with me. When you yak about n/a 5.4's and have a blower on your own personal 5.4 that says it all. No more needs to be said.

Originally Posted by "MAC"

I understand that completely but if your gonna compare the 5.4L to any lsx engine how about you compare it to the correct one instead of an outdated one..... thats like me comparing the ls7 to the 4.6L... not fair or right would you agree? So if its not a fare comparison lets not make that comparison because after all its a pointless comparison...

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

The engine was all gm on that dyno......and yes I you hardcore. I led you right into that ****. I knew one of you would bite

You point is if the n/a 5.4 or 4.6 was so ******* great you would be running n/a......but you're not

Originally Posted by "MAC"

Oh and auto stop calling the 4.6 or 5.4L little its not the engine is bigger then the ls1/6. Both engines are designed differently which gives different cubic inches. While giving around the same bhp and trq numbers. GM would make an OHC engine if they thought that they needed to but apparently they don't need to. How ever i will admit i figured the new 5.0 would have made them do it considering all they success it has

Originally Posted by audacious nick

Bro, remember: if one person built a NA 5.4l to make a ton of power, anyone can do it. That's why we see tons of 500+rwhp NA ls1s

Originally Posted by big hammer

and tons of high hp n\a 5.4's everywhere.

Originally Posted by audacious nick

And remember, also: peak horsepower numbers are everything.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Everything in the engine is gm except the rockers and valve springs now.

BTW that dyno is pre rockers pre valve springs........sucks to eat crow I bet.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Where did I get beat down??? I have a car with 200+whp deficit to these guys and running similar et/mph while still leaving on a 10bolt being n/a with just a bolt-on engine and leaving on a very streetable dr. Not to shabby IMO. All along none of them are n/a or even have a stock blower. Then after all their preaching they don't even build their sbf **** with ford parts when they were yakkin about their combo's. Proof is in the pudding bud.

But got the beat down????? Yea right.

Originally Posted by automach1

My 5.4 has been faster then your ls6 swapped camero. So you talk **** about the ford guys not using ford/factory parts yet you don't want to actually put the facts out on the table? No wai



Really? The 5.4 has been around for years. So excuse invalid.



I ran a n/a 4.6 for 3.5 years. The 4.6 build was cursed from the get go do to build/setup error. Not due to the fact it could not be fast or make power. However all the kinks are being worked out and it will be making some 10sec passes soon

Inb4the4vsuckcsbs because we all know all n/a ls builds have never had issues



:facepalm:

Originally Posted by automach1

More then one has done it.



Just like all of these big hp n/a 5.7s



You are right must be why all of those modular kicked *** in the N/A engine challenge

Originally Posted by Lawhead

Like I said you'll squirm and use the "inside" the motor thing as you spout off about the LS6 intake when you said "Now"

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

This is where the take your blower off comment comes in. Take it the **** off.........prove it. Show us how ******* awesome a 5.4 runs w/o a blower. Bitemark is trying......I can give him credit for that. You on e the other hand get no credit.

You completely failed on your n/a 4.6 build......complete and utter failure. No 2 ways about it.

Tell us again how YOUR n/a modular runs........oh that's right


At the time of that dyno it had my ls6 intake on it. The problem is what?

You're really making yourself look stupider.

Originally Posted by Gt4urass

Uh...that was a quote from one of It'll Run's posts that I messed up the quote on. My b. I was not referencing anything to do with you sugar. I was simply observing that he was talking about the hookers on 33rd street, which is an Orlando area shithole littered with sloots and hood rats.

Originally Posted by Lawhead

LMFAO you didn't say anything about the day of the dyno you said "Now" you really aren't this dumb are you?

I'll quote it and put it in the biggest font possible if ya want me too.... Keep lying your way to LS1tech mastery

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

It has the fast on it now......sorry for the mix up. Everyone knows it has a fast on it now. It had the ls6 on it then. Keep reaching dude.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

This is where the take your blower off comment comes in. Take it the **** off.........prove it. Show us how ******* awesome a 5.4 runs w/o a blower. Bitemark is trying......I can give him credit for that. You on e the other hand get no credit.

You completely failed on your n/a 4.6 build......complete and utter failure. No 2 ways about it.

Tell us again how YOUR n/a modular runs........oh that's right


At the time of that dyno it had my ls6 intake on it. The problem is what?

You're really making yourself look stupider.

Originally Posted by Lawhead

I'm not reaching I'm just stating "FACTS"

as you would say

Originally Posted by automach1

Bitemark isn't trying for n/a glory numbers. That motor is setup for boost. I never finished the build derp. Tell us again how your stock motor camero runs oh that's right Stupider huh