R6cowboy

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Well, you basically covered what I was thinking, especially what's in bold.

Cwarta

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I have nothing above any other guy. I chose used parts because that's the only way I could afford to build this motor. My statement was about the guys who build these type of engines and spend thousands and thousands and make mid 400whp ..... Most of these guys have more money in heads tha. I do my entire engine, and that's fine. Everyone has there own way of doing things. I built a rock solid foundation I could build on for a fraction of the price . Everyone can buy used parts and be budget friendly, or buy new. I never stated I bought everything new, nor do I care that it's not new. My main point was people who spend assloads of money to put out h/c ls numbers, and the second half is in reference to Evan saying no other lsx comes close to his buddy's car.

And for the record, I think my # suck for a 416. But there fuggin awesome for stock LS6 heads.

Cwarta

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So you think it's exceptable to build a stroker motor and spends 5,000+ For a short block just to put out the same numbers as h/c cars?

DirtRoads

Lol... I give it to Ford they have more technology than Chevy with this motor.. Chevy use same stick & rock technology to make power... More cubes.. I wonder if Ford built that 6.2 with four cams what the power would be??? Prolly 520 plus hp..Lol..

R6cowboy

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No. That's not what I was getting at. But I see you're talking about the boys who build a stroker motor that ends up performing like an average h/c LS1. In that case it doesn't matter if they spend $2500 or $10,000 doing it, they simply don't know what they're doing no matter the cost.

Cwarta

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I agree completely. I wasn't knocking on guys for spending $ on there builds. Im talking about the the guys who spend that kinda dough on these builds and then have them perform like h/c cars, and then there happy about it. Thought and planning goes a long way.

evangto87

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I said nothing else on my dyno... not the world.

And 560 is not easy and it does take the details to do it. That is not a common number for a 403

LASTOFTHEBREED02T/A

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Isn't the raptor a 6.2? Around 1k power stock?

R6cowboy

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Do you think there's more technology in the Coyote 5.0 than the new LT1?
Ford certainly takes the cake in the hp per cubic inch department. It would be awesome if Ford came out with a 429c.i. motor based off of the Coyote 5.0 that performed as well as the Roadrunner 5.0 hp per cubic inch. An engine like that would put the equally displacement 427c.i. LS7 to shame. And that would be badass in my book.

Cwarta

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You didn't say squat about "your" dyno. If you had, I wouldn't of said anything. I understood it as you saying none have come close, period.

evangto87

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Stated that a few posts back

It'llrun

It sure came over as you were knocking them... That said, thought and planning is great and parts can be had reasonably cheap... used... However, someone still had to pay full price at some point or you'd not even know how to put a package together today. Some people still don't get it, but that's not anyone's concern, save the people making the mistakes, because they have the information and simply aren't using it properly.

I was really gonna get atcha... glad you clarified.

Yep... I think that's about right...

if 411 is 1k...

The Raptor, however, only has 1 cam per cylinder head, not 2... SOHC. Even that has made over 800hp already. Yes, it was stroked and running E85.

Cwarta

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I understand that, and saw that. But that was well after my initial post, and now knowing that, I understand were your coming from.

It'llrun

Yeah, he was totally clear that it was his dyno he was talking about...


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Cwarta

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No I wasn't knocking on guys who spend a bunch of money on this stuff, for exactly as you said. SOmebodys got to buy it initially lol. Even if you go down the road of buying used, you gotta be carefull. For instance my crank I purchased from a member here and it was supposed to be a mint condition dragonslayer crank. I initially paid $600 for it. When I received it, I mic`d the mains and rods and the rods had been turned .030 and the mains .020... Not what it was supposed to be. When I contacted him, he said tuff **** lol. Paypal sided with me and gave me $150 back to buy the correct bearings. I really wanted to buy a vaccume pump and ewp and shoot for 600rwhp, but alas the funding is not there. So I settled with crank case evacuators lol

Cwarta

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Lol not until later on after I made the initial comment!

FinalCam

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I cannot believe people still say this

Cwarta

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Just for you Evan

It'llrun

Yes huh... You didn't read it all... He said his dyno back on post 28.. yours was like 48... Pllllllllfftt...

Why? People still say Ford needed a blower to keep up and that Ford never made a 400+hp engine till 2011 and anyone actually old enough to think about it has to laugh because they just know better. It's just life... No big deal.

"MAC"

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Why not compare the 305 to the 302?