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Old 02-27-2014, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by snake95
Ford's new 5.0 baby seal clubs the LS3
It baby seal clubs a 5th gen. Not a ls3. When you say ls3 that also adresses the vette .
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
It baby seal clubs a 5th gen. Not a ls3. When you say ls3 that also adresses the vette .
He's got ya by the ***** on this one snake...
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
You just love poking a fork at these guys don't ya? Lol
Sometimes I'll actually say things in an attempt to troll but not very often, usually my opinion renders me as a troll in some posters' minds.

The 5.0 vs the LS3 (engine) is a toss up if you ask me.

Now HiO will mention something about "yeah but you're cube limited on the 5.0" and he'll squirm like a worm when I call him out on him talking **** on "Ford guys" when they increase their cubes. Just wanted to get that out of the way because I knew a comment like that was inevitable
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Here we go again comparing GM's flagship sports car to a pony car. How about comparing a 2013 ls3 Camaro to a 2013 5.0 Mustang? After all they have been direct competitors since 1967.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
Here we go again comparing GM's flagship sports car to a pony car. How about comparing a 2013 ls3 Camaro to a 2013 5.0 Mustang? After all they have been direct competitors since 1967.
Bro that doesn't happen much anymore since it's COMPLETELY LOPSIDED. I don't mean a little bit, either.

Next it will be Veyron vs Mustang because Al Oppenheiser ate lunch with Bugatti's CEO and that now makes Bugatti a branch of GM.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
Here we go again comparing GM's flagship sports car to a pony car. How about comparing a 2013 ls3 Camaro to a 2013 5.0 Mustang? After all they have been direct competitors since 1967.
Tends to be that way because the brand loyal realize what turds the 5th gens truly are.

For the amount of money one would have to pay to swap out to lighter wheels, driveshaft, clutch, tune, gears, etc. just to get it to run with a 5.0, you might as well just buy a 5.0 to start with. Not to mention the only 5th gens worth mentioning are the 12+ with the Fe4 suspension and other minor upgrades.

This coming from a GM guy

Reality sucks
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Im still looking for an ls3 vette either cammed or bolt ons to run in the New England area if anyone knows anyone. Would like to have a good 5.0 vs LS3 comparison.
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
He's got ya by the ***** on this one snake...
Lol. He was on that one.
Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
Here we go again comparing GM's flagship sports car to a pony car. How about comparing a 2013 ls3 Camaro to a 2013 5.0 Mustang? After all they have been direct competitors since 1967.
I didn't compare **** buddy, he threw out a big wide open statement about a ls3.
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Originally Posted by snake95
The 5.0 vs the LS3 (engine) is a toss up if you ask me.
And a damn good one IMO. It's great when two companies have such good competition for each other.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
Here we go again comparing GM's flagship sports car to a pony car. How about comparing a 2013 ls3 Camaro to a 2013 5.0 Mustang? After all they have been direct competitors since 1967.
Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
I didn't compare **** buddy, he threw out a big wide open statement about a ls3.
Exactly. Slap a 5.0 into a go-cart and see what happens to that Vette. haha...
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Tends to be that way because the brand loyal realize what turds the 5th gens truly are.

For the amount of money one would have to pay to swap out to lighter wheels, driveshaft, clutch, tune, gears, etc. just to get it to run with a 5.0, you might as well just buy a 5.0 to start with. Not to mention the only 5th gens worth mentioning are the 12+ with the Fe4 suspension and other minor upgrades.

This coming from a GM guy

Reality sucks
im not brand loyal. As a matter of fact I dont care what hio says about a 5th gen. Imo its a big heavy heap of ****. And a waste of a good ls3
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Exactly. Slap a 5.0 into a go-cart and see what happens to that Vette. haha...
the ls3 is the sronger of the 2 comparing engine to engine. When you put them in equal weight cars the 5.0. Is just as strong because of gearing. They did one hell of a job gearing the cars. Shame the trans doesn't hold up.
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
Lol. He was on that one.
I didn't compare **** buddy, he threw out a big wide open statement about a ls3.
Is this another HiO habit you picked up? When you're all butthurt by a comment, just slap an "Owned" smiley on your response and make yourself feel better?

Funny how you responded trying to defend the LS3 but you still managed to **** that one up, you mentioned the Vette immediately and didn't even compare them engine v. engine. What are you defending, the Vette or the LS3? Like R6 said, you can throw the 5.0 under a bar stool with wheels and it will fly past the Vette. Same with the LS3 engine.

*** chap-age due to the smaller 5.0 is through the roof. I understand you had HiO hold your hand and kiss it and tell you everything is going to be alright with your LS1 Chebrolay, but you're allowed to still give credit where it is due I think the LS3 is an awesome engine. I love pushrods. I'm also aware technology is a good thing even though as humans we dislike a change in routine.

Oh yeah

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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
the ls3 is the sronger of the 2 comparing engine to engine. When you put them in equal weight cars the 5.0. Is just as strong because of gearing. They did one hell of a job gearing the cars. Shame the trans doesn't hold up.
Its actually quite a bit beefier then a t-56...
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by snake95
Is this another HiO habit you picked up? When you're all butthurt by a comment, just slap an "Owned" smiley on your response and make yourself feel better?
Lol no man. You walked into that one. You know I had you there. Im not but hurt. I cant say I dislike anyone on here. You just didn't think before you spoke. It happens to all of us at some point. Sounds like you got a little butt hurt by walking into that.
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
Lol no man. You walked into that one. You know I had you there. Im not but hurt. I cant say I dislike anyone on here. You just didn't think before you spoke. It happens to all of us at some point. Sounds like you got a little butt hurt by walking into that.
I fixed my response above & added more to it.

This is how it's apparent you're not that bright: you're trying to play it off like you made a valid point when in reality you just brought up a DIFFERENT car, and did not defend the motor itself, herp derp. You said the 5.0 beats the fifth gen but that didn't include the Vette. See my above response as to why that's irrelevant when discussing motors.

My original 5.0 baby seal clubbing the LS3 was said in jest. ****, it's rated at more power from the factory!

What is it? Does it irk you that the 5.0 is evenly matched to the big b-b-b-b-b-b-bad 6.2 LS3?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Its actually quite a bit beefier then a t-56.
Yea right! You know how much torque termis put through a t56? you know better than this statement. They break alot and you know it. But they are geared much better than a 56
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Originally Posted by snake95
Basically when you're proven wrong, you try to go back and "clarify" (aka rephrase) what you said in order to save face.

Same old pathetic **** from you.

It's gonna suck to be proven wrong all the time, and I'm sorry you have to experience that.
Still no proof I see. I break it down for you. Your modded sbf in the mustang you are building......yea you know the one. You are shooting for high 11's. Bolt-on ls territory out of your built ford......nuff said??

Cause right now you're the retard or you would have one of these nasty furd combo's listed.
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I thought lt1ss was lt4 ****.
No they were not. They did a run of lt4 camaro's. But if I am not mistake all c4 m6 cars got the lt4 in 1996.
Originally Posted by R6cowboy
And the 2000 Cobra R was grossly unrated at 385hp. Many chassis dyno tests proved they made closer to 420 crank hp. Typically around the 360whp range on a dynojet. With simple bolt-on's like long tubes, full exhaust, TB, MAF, tuning, they're near LS7 territory in the power department. Those were some pretty badass 5.4L's.
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Hio, you comprehend **** like a full blown retard. In no way am I comparing the Cobra R's 5.4 to the LS7. What I said was a bolt-on and tuned 2000 Cobra R can nearly reach the power level of a bone stock LS7, close to 500 crank. Not quite but close. No **** it has nothing to a modded LS7. Do you smoke something before every time you read a post, or do you have the reading comprehension skills of a stump?
Go back and reread R6.......then reply back to who the full blown retard is. Tell me where this magical 5.4 is gonna pick uo 100+ hp with bolt-ons.

You're just like the other furd miesters in this thread........here lets do this this this and this to the furd and compare it to the stock chevy stuff.
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
Yea right! You know how much torque termis put through a t56? you know better than this statement. They break alot and you know it. But they are geared much better than a 56
Actually Im being dead serious. I wouldnt make a blind statement like that.

Ironically... compared a t56 out of a cobra to my mt82... The hard parts in my trans are literally twice the size of the t56.

Do you actually know what fails in an mt82, and why they fail?

It took 850whp to tear through a stock input shaft of an mt82. And they have hardened input shafts out now as it is the weakest hard part in the car.
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Originally Posted by snake95
I fixed my response above & added more to it.

This is how it's apparent you're not that bright: you're trying to play it off like you made a valid point when in reality you just brought up a DIFFERENT car, and did not defend the motor itself, herp derp. You said the 5.0 beats the fifth gen but that didn't include the Vette. See my above response as to why that's irrelevant when discussing motors.

My original 5.0 baby seal clubbing the LS3 was said in jest. ****, it's rated at more power from the factory!

What is it? Does it irk you that the 5.0 is evenly matched to the big b-b-b-b-b-b-bad 6.2 LS3?
I didn't compare it to the vette. I said you're own broad statement did!!!!! You should have said the 5.0 baby seal clubs the 5th gen. Ur **** up not mine lol. Keep trying
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