Bolt on 5.0, beats 4th gen 427 stroker camaro SS
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The guys spending that much didn't START their build with a used pickup truck block and a used crank, pistons and rods... You clearly did. A good Callies crank ALONE can cost over $1,500.
$450 for a dragonslayer... usually they're right at $1,500... So let's be realistic. Used parts, particularly stolen ones, tend to cost less than new, special made... LS7 stock Manley's go for about $700 a set, you spent 400... Yeah, used parts makes your build cost less.
And with that, you have the audacity... to claim these other guys, building NEW ****, should get their act together...
How does one buy used aftermarket cams that haven't been made yet? C'mon... You're TRULY comparing apples to oranges here and claiming both are red...![Mullet](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/mullet.gif)
$450 for a dragonslayer... usually they're right at $1,500... So let's be realistic. Used parts, particularly stolen ones, tend to cost less than new, special made... LS7 stock Manley's go for about $700 a set, you spent 400... Yeah, used parts makes your build cost less.
And with that, you have the audacity... to claim these other guys, building NEW ****, should get their act together...
How does one buy used aftermarket cams that haven't been made yet? C'mon... You're TRULY comparing apples to oranges here and claiming both are red...
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The guys spending that much didn't START their build with a used pickup truck block and a used crank, pistons and rods... You clearly did. A good Callies crank ALONE can cost over $1,500.
$450 for a dragonslayer... usually they're right at $1,500... So let's be realistic. Used parts, particularly stolen ones, tend to cost less than new, special made... LS7 stock Manley's go for about $700 a set, you spent 400... Yeah, used parts makes your build cost less.
And with that, you have the audacity... to claim these other guys, building NEW ****, should get their act together...
How does one buy used aftermarket cams that haven't been made yet? C'mon... You're TRULY comparing apples to oranges here and claiming both are red...![Mullet](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/mullet.gif)
$450 for a dragonslayer... usually they're right at $1,500... So let's be realistic. Used parts, particularly stolen ones, tend to cost less than new, special made... LS7 stock Manley's go for about $700 a set, you spent 400... Yeah, used parts makes your build cost less.
And with that, you have the audacity... to claim these other guys, building NEW ****, should get their act together...
How does one buy used aftermarket cams that haven't been made yet? C'mon... You're TRULY comparing apples to oranges here and claiming both are red...
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And for the record, I think my # suck for a 416. But there fuggin awesome for stock LS6 heads.
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Lol... I give it to Ford they have more technology than Chevy with this motor.. Chevy use same stick & rock technology to make power... More cubes.. I wonder if Ford built that 6.2 with four cams what the power would be??? Prolly 520 plus hp..Lol..
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No. That's not what I was getting at. But I see you're talking about the boys who build a stroker motor that ends up performing like an average h/c LS1. In that case it doesn't matter if they spend $2500 or $10,000 doing it, they simply don't know what they're doing no matter the cost.
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No. That's not what I was getting at. But I see you're talking about the boys who build a stroker motor that ends up performing like an average h/c LS1. In that case it doesn't matter if they spend $2500 or $10,000 doing it, they simply don't know what they're doing no matter the cost.
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Ford certainly takes the cake in the hp per cubic inch department. It would be awesome if Ford came out with a 429c.i. motor based off of the Coyote 5.0 that performed as well as the Roadrunner 5.0 hp per cubic inch. An engine like that would put the equally displacement 427c.i. LS7 to shame. And that would be badass in my book.
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I was really gonna get atcha... glad you clarified.
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Yep... I think that's about right...
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if 411 is 1k...
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The Raptor, however, only has 1 cam per cylinder head, not 2... SOHC. Even that has made over 800hp already. Yes, it was stroked and running E85.
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It sure came over as you were knocking them... That said, thought and planning is great and parts can be had reasonably cheap... used... However, someone still had to pay full price at some point or you'd not even know how to put a package together today. Some people still don't get it, but that's not anyone's concern, save the people making the mistakes, because they have the information and simply aren't using it properly.
I was really gonna get atcha... glad you clarified.![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
I was really gonna get atcha... glad you clarified.
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Yes huh... You didn't read it all... He said his dyno back on post 28.. yours was like 48... Pllllllllfftt... ![Icon Razz](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/icon_razz.gif)
Why? People still say Ford needed a blower to keep up and that Ford never made a 400+hp engine till 2011 and anyone actually old enough to think about it has to laugh because they just know better. It's just life... No big deal.
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Why? People still say Ford needed a blower to keep up and that Ford never made a 400+hp engine till 2011 and anyone actually old enough to think about it has to laugh because they just know better. It's just life... No big deal.
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