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Old 05-01-2014, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
Not Fords fault that GM put the ls3 in a tank and tried to compete.
This.
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Originally Posted by bh353
You really are a dumbass aren't you...added displacement? where are they gonna fit the engine with dohc heads?Have you ever looked at the size of a coyote vs a ls?
You do realize that increased bore and/or stroke will add zero physical size to the motor right? ...and I'm the dumbass...
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Originally Posted by bh353
You really are a dumbass aren't you...added displacement? where are they gonna fit the engine with dohc heads?Have you ever looked at the size of a coyote vs a ls?
Does the physical size of an engine block get bigger if you add displacement? Maybe I am missing something here...
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Originally Posted by bh353
What tank are we talking about? a Ls3 vette would peel the paint off of a mustang...Are we talking cars or engines?
I wouldn't say peel it off it is faster and should be. But not by much.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
Does the physical size of an engine block get bigger if you add displacement? Maybe I am missing something here...
Werd...
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
There is nothing to compare lol. Why compare a 50k plus car to a 30k car ? I could however compare the GT500 to one and its not even fair for the Vette. And how is it closer to my cars weight? 3200 vs 3600 lb car camaro is only 200 lbs more than my car.
Lets compare a gt500 to a zr1...lets compare a z28 with the ls7 or a zl1 to a boss any way you put it gm wins...
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Originally Posted by bh353
Lets compare a gt500 to a zr1...lets compare a z28 with the ls7 or a zl1 to a boss any way you put it gm wins...
Wooow. You really are special, aren't you? Yes pumpkin, GM wins...now go put your helmet back on before you hurt yourself.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
Mustang and Camaro are direct competitors. Been that way since 67. No one wants to compare the 5.0 to the fifth gen because you know what the outcome would be...

If the 6th gen Camaro is faster than the 5.0, then these guys will start comparing them again, lol.
5th gens hold up pretty well in the comparison I think. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
Does the physical size of an engine block get bigger if you add displacement? Maybe I am missing something here...
Yes it does,when the block is already maxed out...just like all ls blocks are the same size and bores are different which makes thinner cylinder walls..the ls7's can't handle boost like a ls 3,because the bores are smaller..
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Originally Posted by bh353
Lets compare a gt500 to a zr1...lets compare a z28 with the ls7 or a zl1 to a boss any way you put it gm wins...
Wow butt hurt much lol ? GM's ls3 Camaro is not beating anything and thats the truth. Go ahead and compare my 5.0 to a Vette if thats what it takes to beat one Also i owned a 5th gen Camaro so go ahead and keep flapping your gums brother.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
5th gens hold up pretty well in the comparison I think. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
I think the camaro does a good job around a track with the 1le. Irs does alot better job than a solid axle. Thats one thing i do hate about my car.
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Originally Posted by bh353
Yes it does,when the block is already maxed out...just like all ls blocks are the same size and bores are different which makes thinner cylinder walls..the ls7's can't handle boost like a ls 3,because the bores are smaller..
You win, lol..... my bores are 4.125, how much boost can I handle?
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Originally Posted by bh353
Yes it does,when the block is already maxed out...just like all ls blocks are the same size and bores are different which makes thinner cylinder walls..the ls7's can't handle boost like a ls 3,because the bores are smaller..
No, no it doesn't. Look here cupcake, adding size via bore and stroke changes nothing as far as physical exterior dimensions. Wrap your tiny, little water head around that idea, and then try to absorb this one...the coyote isn't maxed out.
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
No, no it doesn't. Look here cupcake, adding size via bore and stroke changes nothing as far as physical exterior dimensions. Wrap your tiny, little water head around that idea, and then try to absorb this one...the coyote isn't maxed out.
Ok dumbass..How far can you oversize a 5.0?Please tell me the max bore and stroke..because im gonna drag your *** down the street with your lame *** answer..
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Originally Posted by bh353
Why? because you and every one else knows that the Ls3 out classes a coyote 5.0 and want to compare it to a car that weighs 500lb more...
"Out classes" in what way? They are pretty damn equal stock and with bolt-ons. They take to boost pretty similarly as well. Have you actually done any sort of research on the 5.0, cuz you're acting like it's just a stroked 4.6.
Originally Posted by bh353
You really are a dumbass aren't you...added displacement? where are they gonna fit the engine with dohc heads?Have you ever looked at the size of a coyote vs a ls?
Same thing with this statement. The Coyote is quite a bit smaller than the old DOHC 4.6, which I'm guessing you're thinking of here.
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Pretty sure you can turn one into a 351 witch would be cool. But cost to much money.
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Originally Posted by bh353
Lets compare a gt500 to a zr1...lets compare a z28 with the ls7 or a zl1 to a boss any way you put it gm wins...
Lmfao look at the butthurt GM lover retreat to the vette because the fifth gen Camaro is embarrassing.
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I'll answer for him...You can't bore them at all. My guess a you might get to 5.2L with more stroke.....but no more than 5.4 for sure. It's why I have said their handicap is their displacement. Not that they can't make plenty of power if you know what to do with it.
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Originally Posted by bh353
Ok dumbass..How far can you oversize a 5.0?Please tell me the max bore and stroke..because im gonna drag your *** down the street with your lame *** answer..
http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/...er-351-coyote/



Before you start crying about price, or bring up another lame argument...remember, the bore spacing is shared with ye "old" 4.6 mod blocks...and what size have we seen them reach from the factory? Exactly
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'll answer for him...You can't bore them at all. My guess a you might get to 5.2L with more stroke.....but no more than 5.4 for sure.
They can get them to 5.7 liters or 351ci.


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