ls1 Trans Am vs 2014 5.0 Coyote
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351 is more than 302. Those 49 inches would add up to quite a bit given what the coyote already makes for it's size.
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Like I said if a 302 maxes out to a 351 anything larger will have to have a larger block...So when you have a dohc head it takes up more space..compare a coyote 351 to a Ls7 and tell me which one is bigger in size..
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Well peel the paint off of a ls3 vette...since the coyote is a better engine...
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I didn't say anything about how much displacement would increase, just that there was, in fact, room to grow. And when you're throwing down over 1.5 hp per inch to the tire...that **** adds up. (Referencing a bolt-on car like Evan's, not stock).
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I have seen absolutely nothing stating that the 5.8 has a taller deck than the 5.4. Would you care to provide some evidence?
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No.. you said displacement has nothing to do with block size..Let me ask you this and I will rest my case...can a coyote 5.0 block be sleeved to the equivilant of a Ls block?
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5.0 L Coyote[edit]
The 5.0 L (4951 cc, 302 cid)[10] "Coyote" V8 is the latest evolution of the Modular engine.[11] Ford engineers needed to design a V8, specifically for the Mustang GT, that would compete with the GM 6.2L LS3 used in the new Chevrolet Camaro, and the new Chrysler 6.4L Hemi ESF in the Charger and Challenger. This engine had to remain close to the same physical size of the outgoing 4.6, and share other specifications with it such as bore spacing, deck height, bell housing bolt pattern, etc. in order for the engine to utilize existing Modular production line tooling.
5.8 L[edit]
The 5.8L (5808 cc, 354 CID) DOHC 4-valve Modular V8, dubbed Trinity internally by Ford, is introduced with the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500. The 5.8 L's bore and stroke are 93.5 mm (3.68 in) and 105.8 mm (4.165 in) respectively. The Trinity is based on the 5.4L V8 used in the previous model year GT500, utilizing the same block geometry but receiving a 3.3 mm (0.128 in) increase in bore diameter.
Assuming you already know that a 4.6 and 5.4 have different deck heights....maybe you didn't. Leave it to a chevy guy to school you on it.
The 5.0 L (4951 cc, 302 cid)[10] "Coyote" V8 is the latest evolution of the Modular engine.[11] Ford engineers needed to design a V8, specifically for the Mustang GT, that would compete with the GM 6.2L LS3 used in the new Chevrolet Camaro, and the new Chrysler 6.4L Hemi ESF in the Charger and Challenger. This engine had to remain close to the same physical size of the outgoing 4.6, and share other specifications with it such as bore spacing, deck height, bell housing bolt pattern, etc. in order for the engine to utilize existing Modular production line tooling.
5.8 L[edit]
The 5.8L (5808 cc, 354 CID) DOHC 4-valve Modular V8, dubbed Trinity internally by Ford, is introduced with the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500. The 5.8 L's bore and stroke are 93.5 mm (3.68 in) and 105.8 mm (4.165 in) respectively. The Trinity is based on the 5.4L V8 used in the previous model year GT500, utilizing the same block geometry but receiving a 3.3 mm (0.128 in) increase in bore diameter.
Assuming you already know that a 4.6 and 5.4 have different deck heights....maybe you didn't. Leave it to a chevy guy to school you on it.
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Butthurt from what? what car does a 5.0 coyote come in? What car does a Ls3 come in? that's right a Camaro,and vette..Now can a mustang 5.0 beat a base Ls3 vette?The answer is no,so where is the butthurt?
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5.0 L Coyote[edit]
The 5.0 L (4951 cc, 302 cid)[10] "Coyote" V8 is the latest evolution of the Modular engine.[11] Ford engineers needed to design a V8, specifically for the Mustang GT, that would compete with the GM 6.2L LS3 used in the new Chevrolet Camaro, and the new Chrysler 6.4L Hemi ESF in the Charger and Challenger. This engine had to remain close to the same physical size of the outgoing 4.6, and share other specifications with it such as bore spacing, deck height, bell housing bolt pattern, etc. in order for the engine to utilize existing Modular production line tooling.
5.8 L[edit]
The 5.8L (5808 cc, 354 CID) DOHC 4-valve Modular V8, dubbed Trinity internally by Ford, is introduced with the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500. The 5.8 L's bore and stroke are 93.5 mm (3.68 in) and 105.8 mm (4.165 in) respectively. The Trinity is based on the 5.4L V8 used in the previous model year GT500, utilizing the same block geometry but receiving a 3.3 mm (0.128 in) increase in bore diameter.
Assuming you already know that a 4.6 and 5.4 have different deck heights....maybe you didn't. Leave it to a chevy guy to school you on it.
The 5.0 L (4951 cc, 302 cid)[10] "Coyote" V8 is the latest evolution of the Modular engine.[11] Ford engineers needed to design a V8, specifically for the Mustang GT, that would compete with the GM 6.2L LS3 used in the new Chevrolet Camaro, and the new Chrysler 6.4L Hemi ESF in the Charger and Challenger. This engine had to remain close to the same physical size of the outgoing 4.6, and share other specifications with it such as bore spacing, deck height, bell housing bolt pattern, etc. in order for the engine to utilize existing Modular production line tooling.
5.8 L[edit]
The 5.8L (5808 cc, 354 CID) DOHC 4-valve Modular V8, dubbed Trinity internally by Ford, is introduced with the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500. The 5.8 L's bore and stroke are 93.5 mm (3.68 in) and 105.8 mm (4.165 in) respectively. The Trinity is based on the 5.4L V8 used in the previous model year GT500, utilizing the same block geometry but receiving a 3.3 mm (0.128 in) increase in bore diameter.
Assuming you already know that a 4.6 and 5.4 have different deck heights....maybe you didn't. Leave it to a chevy guy to school you on it.
Why do you insist on comparing the Mustang to the Camaro? That is what makes you seem like a butthurt teenager.
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He was saying that you don't have to increase the block size to increase the displacement.