I havent.. by choice. My buddy puts a LS in everything, has spare blocks sitting around his garage.. some of them prepped and ready for assembly. Been trying to talk me into a 5.3 turbo build for the Camaro. I have a nasty NA LT1 instead. Would the LS be cheaper/easier? Yep. I like my old tech LT1 though... fun to race and gets the win light often enough

 

Depends on what you want. LS is stuff is better by a long shot no question. But the old stuff can be made to run. Depends on the car,budget and what you want out of it.

 

I thought a 347 SBC Ford does as good as an LS1 conversion in those Fox Mustangs.

 

So there's one person whose opinion is invalid.

 

You can pretty much find a Vortec bolt pattern everything. Even an HSR.

 

How is MY opinion invalid?
Here this should help with your response -
Opinion - a belief, judgment, or way of thinking about something : what someone thinks about a particular thing

Invalid -being without foundation or force in fact, truth, or law

Please continue to entertain me with your ignorant opinion.

 

SBF*, and it does, but what kills that is the guys who put fuggin' stock 302 parts on them and run 14s.

 

Ah, sorry about that. Meant SBF. Habit.

 

A sbf 347 won't hold a candle to ls stuff. That's a perfect example really. A 347 furd in a street build will get you mid 11's. A ls1, 6.0 will get you at least that in a fox and probably more. My ls6 is a perfect example. In a hotrod fox it would have a rw of less than 3000lb instead of 3250......instant .2 quicker with out even trying just due to weight.

 

Really? Even in California (home of the strictest emissions laws in the country) such a swap would be legal as long as the LS3 retained all emissions equipment it originally came with. That's why GM developed the E-Rod crate engine which, according to them, is legal in all pre OBD2 vehicles in all 50 states.

 

You are correct there are exceptions, my bad. According to the code book the swapped engine must retain any emissions components of the original certified configuration. This is where it gets tricky, EGR valves, air pumps etc. Most modern engines dont have them.. The way Cali does it makes sense.

(6) Alteration of a vehicle’s configuration so that it changes from a certified to a noncertified configuration is prohibited. In the inspection process, vehicles that have been altered from their original certified configuration shall be tested in the same manner as other subject vehicles, in accordance with the following:

(i) Vehicles with engines other than the engine originally installed by the manufacturer, or an identical replacement engine shall be subject to the test procedures and standards for the chassis type and model year, including visual equipment inspections for components that are part of the original certified configuration and part of the normal inspection.

(ii) Vehicles that have been altered from an engine of one fuel type to another fuel type that is subject to the I/M program, for example, from a diesel engine to a gasoline engine shall be subject to the test procedures and standards for the current fuel type, and to the requirements of subparagraph (i).

(iii) Vehicles that are altered to a fuel type for which there is no certified configuration shall be tested according to the most stringent emission standards established for that vehicle type and model year. Emission control device requirements may be waived if the Department determines that the alternatively fueled vehicle configuration would meet the new vehicle standards for that model year without these devices.

 

Haven't you learned your lesson after being embarrassed every single time you try to sound like you know Ford stuff?

Glutton for punishment, Napoleon is

 

I think what he means, is that your opinion is not based on experiance, but prejudice. That makes it invalide to this discussion.

I get not wanting to be one of the herd and all. Doing your own thing and being original is great, and I strongly agree with that. However, facts are undeniable, and LS stuff is just easier and cheaper to make go fast. That doesn't make them the best platform, but it is often the best choice for a fast and reliable set up. If you have the time, money, and desire to do it another way, go for it. Just don't act like everyone is stupid for doing it differant. Like yourself, they too are entitled to their opinions.

 

You're perfect proof. You been ****** with furd **** for years and ain't left the 13's.

If i remember correctly the last time we went through this i had more examples of sbf furd **** that i have been around than you.

Go ahead and bring up stoppy's car again to drive my point home even farther.

 

Didn't nsighthyeigjns bolt on 6.0 truck motor out run a built 347 fox?

 

A opinion does not need to be based on experience.. not that I am lacking that though. If he wants to insult someone he should learn the English language at least

I didnt call anyone stupid either.. I like LS stuff. It just doesnt need to go in everything.

 

Glad you asked...lol

The dig. Nathans turdgen don't have the suspension work as the fox......no race brakes either. Both were on a dr but jasons fox had hoosier dr. I think Nathans has nitto's.

347 mustang vs lq9 6.0 iroc dig:
the slow roll to get the tire a bit more even. Keep in mind the lq9 is running on the stock ls1 tune with only stuff turned off to make it run.

snake .....you may not want to click this one

Slow roll 347 mustang vs lq9 6.0 iroc:

 

My bolt on ls1 was running faster than an HCI 347 fox last year too

 

Hio, you ******* with your friends' poor setups doesn't mean you know **** about Fords. I've never had one car more than 3 years. Hell I've only been a licensed driver for 9 I know it hurts your pride a lot when you get made a fool of every time you try to talk Fords - so you passively admit defeat by bribing up irrelevant topics.

Stick to the **** you know, which is mainly reducing rotational weight. Hell you've said some things regarding engines that makes me confident you don't really know how what you're doing.

What was the 347's combination? You guys sure like to hold onto the shitty 347s that are running 302 parts and act like they're a good representation.

In the other thread, dude lost to a Maxima with his LS car. I guess that's the new thing. I guess I expected the GM car to suck less.

 

So it's taking you 3 cars over a period of 9 years to be in the 13s? Not exactly great bud.

I'm no engine builder and don't claim to be. But there is no doubt I'm head and shoulders above you there. After all am smart enough not to preach the merits of a sbf.

It's a 347.....built stroked carbed aluminum headed enough compression that it likes race gas. He has changed to a dual plane intake which he said helped since this run. He has also used my wb and jets just this week to try to get the tune closer. The body is race car, caged, race brakes, anti roll bar, no heat ac or wipers.