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Old 07-02-2016, 10:12 PM
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They act like its the coyote that is giving them their blistering quarter mile times. All reality its just their gearing.
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Originally Posted by Mappinsj
They act like its the coyote that is giving them their blistering quarter mile times. All reality its just their gearing.
Gearing helps but the chassis itself is pretty damn good too. It's a great platform IMO
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There's nothing to argue. There are plenty of SLB LS3 cars making 800-900 whp with FI.

I know you like to try and rial up the fanboys but it's really simple - If a motor makes more NA, it's going to make more under pressure. There's no denying this. To say otherwise simply shows you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
So why so few 8's and 9's then? I like results, man!
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Originally Posted by T.Man
There's nothing to argue. There are plenty of SLB LS3 cars making 800-900 whp with FI.

I know you like to try and rial up the fanboys but it's really simple - If a motor makes more NA, it's going to make more under pressure. There's no denying this. To say otherwise simply shows you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Thats what i was getting at...i want to see hp numbers not track numbers...way too many variables..
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I would say the biggest thing is most guys don't want to tyrone up their nice cars. If it's a mustang gt who cares.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
So why so few 8's and 9's then? I like results, man!
They're out there but in fewer numbers.
These days, more people are into 1/2 mile and roll racing because it's easier on the wallet.
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Originally Posted by T.Man
They're out there but in fewer numbers.
These days, more people are into 1/2 mile and roll racing because it's easier on the wallet.
So where are the 8's then?

I'm as baffled as you guys are. I figured if the ls3 was superior as Mappins said it was with FI compared to the 5.0 there would be more ls3 cars running 8's SLB and SBE than coyote cars.

Where dey at doe?
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I also think alot of people who build Ls based engines figure if they are gonna run FI why not build it with a bigger displacement and a built bottem end since its alot cheaper, and the coyote is limited in displacement...
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
So where are the 8's then?

I'm as baffled as you guys are. I figured if the ls3 was superior as Mappins said it was with FI compared to the 5.0 there would be more ls3 cars running 8's SLB and SBE than coyote cars.

Where dey at doe?
LS3 is superior. Mustang trans gearing is superior.
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I also think alot of people who build Ls based engines figure if they are gonna run FI why not build it with a bigger displacement and a built bottem end since its alot cheaper, and the coyote is limited in displacement...
No point in trying to have an honest conversation in this place anymore. You show the fanboys something and their argument changes to suite their narrative. First it was that the Coyote makes more power with FI, which can easily be dispelled to "Well it runs 8/9 sec 1/4 SLB, stock etc." So because the main argument was shot down, let's deviate to something with tons of variables to try and prove"superiority"

Arguing to argue. Easier to just lurk, shake your head at them (either side really) and just laugh.
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So no 8 second SLB/SBE FI ls3 cars?

Coyote is superior FI. Got it
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You refer to its 8 second status making the engine superior. You are like a 4 year old.
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Originally Posted by Mappinsj
You refer to its 8 second status making the engine superior. You are like a 4 year old.
Where are the 8 second SLB/SBE Ls3 cars then?
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Where are the 8 second SLB/SBE Ls3 cars then?
You keep going back and forth from Coyote to car. Make up your ******* point. If you want to talk about 1/4 times refer to the car, if you wanna talk about a superior motor bring up horsepower.

The mustang has superior gearing, allowing its car to gain a better ET.
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Originally Posted by Mappinsj
You keep going back and forth from Coyote to car. Make up your ******* point. If you want to talk about 1/4 times refer to the car, if you wanna talk about a superior motor bring up horsepower.

The mustang has superior gearing, allowing its car to gain a better ET.
I wasn't aware gears couldn't be changed out on a 5G or c6. Can they not be?
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I wasn't aware gears couldn't be changed out on a 5G or c6. Can they not be?
I am talking about transmission gearing. The ls3 is not in the new 6th gen. I am 100% sure that if it was, this argument would be over.
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Originally Posted by Mappinsj
I am talking about transmission gearing. The ls3 is not in the new 6th gen. I am 100% sure that if it was, this argument would be over.
Are there any 8 second SLB/SBE 6Gs yet?

Curious of those results too. I'm a results type of guy.
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Originally Posted by 08ls3
Does anyone have fi hp numbers on stock blocks to compare?
Originally Posted by T.Man
There's nothing to argue. There are plenty of SLB LS3 cars making 800-900 whp with FI.

I know you like to try and rial up the fanboys but it's really simple - If a motor makes more NA, it's going to make more under pressure. There's no denying this. To say otherwise simply shows you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
800-900 is pretty easy with the 2015+ 5.0 SLB. At only 10-12psi. Sheldon Lewis was 930s running 9.0s @157+. 100% stock drivetrain.
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Originally Posted by T.Man
No point in trying to have an honest conversation in this place anymore. You show the fanboys something and their argument changes to suite their narrative. First it was that the Coyote makes more power with FI, which can easily be dispelled to "Well it runs 8/9 sec 1/4 SLB, stock etc." So because the main argument was shot down, let's deviate to something with tons of variables to try and prove"superiority"

Arguing to argue. Easier to just lurk, shake your head at them (either side really) and just laugh.
Are you implying I am a fanboy?
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Originally Posted by Mappinsj
They act like its the coyote that is giving them their blistering quarter mile times. All reality its just their gearing.
Its the package. The only reason 6gen Camaros are running low 12s/11.9 is the A8. Manuals are slower in the 1/4.

Originally Posted by Mappinsj
LS3 is superior. Mustang trans gearing is superior.
No.

Originally Posted by Mappinsj
I am talking about transmission gearing. The ls3 is not in the new 6th gen. I am 100% sure that if it was, this argument would be over.

No.


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