Run in with a new C7 GS....some notes...
10-09-2017, 09:41 PM
#101
Because I am very frugal with my cars and they are way out of my price range.
397/404 sounds pretty damned balanced to me, yet is a loss in your mind, all because of the blue oval.
We've been down this hemi road before, I posted videos of hemi rams walking all over 6.0L chevys, you come up with lame excuses such as "it wasn't in tow haul mode" and claim that you won, because "I have never left 14's".
Its all a balance man. You know nothing about that hence you've never left the 14s.
6.0>hemi. The only hemis they maybe won't smoke are the new 8speed ones. I haven't ran one of those yet. In a comparable configured truck it's a no contest. Hell even the 5.3 giclves the hemi all it wants in comparable trucks.....been there done that to.
6.0>hemi. The only hemis they maybe won't smoke are the new 8speed ones. I haven't ran one of those yet. In a comparable configured truck it's a no contest. Hell even the 5.3 giclves the hemi all it wants in comparable trucks.....been there done that to.
We've been down this hemi road before, I posted videos of hemi rams walking all over 6.0L chevys, you come up with lame excuses such as "it wasn't in tow haul mode" and claim that you won, because "I have never left 14's".
10-10-2017, 06:51 AM
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It's seriously hysterical how bobble is the king of all these hypothetical builds with special attention needed to compare to Ford builds that actually exist 
He never backs **** up, just says "they're out there" then pouts with different made up stories about why Ford vehicles hurt his feels.
To him, a 10.99999999 car that has spent 20 years building, and double the amount for everything other than heads, with aero mods galore, FP trans, and FORD rear, is somehow less effort than someone who spent less money, has better heads and cam, and drives the **** around his race car. Because the Ford car doesn't have factory heads Then the crickets really come out when you mention a OEM head from a Cleveland on a Windsor 
but but but they're different engines!!! Nawt fairrr!!! 
You've shown your Ford ignorance for 10+ years on this site. SBCs are never impressive for the size they are. Always some big bad 380+ cube old school SBC needed in order to hit 12s at the track. It explains why you need 350 Chevy cars to compare to 302 Ford cars.
Now be a good little liberal bitch and change the topic when you've been schooled.
He never backs **** up, just says "they're out there" then pouts with different made up stories about why Ford vehicles hurt his feels. To him, a 10.99999999 car that has spent 20 years building, and double the amount for everything other than heads, with aero mods galore, FP trans, and FORD rear, is somehow less effort than someone who spent less money, has better heads and cam, and drives the **** around his race car. Because the Ford car doesn't have factory heads
Then the crickets really come out when you mention a OEM head from a Cleveland on a Windsor but but but they're different engines!!! Nawt fairrr!!! You've shown your Ford ignorance for 10+ years on this site. SBCs are never impressive for the size they are. Always some big bad 380+ cube old school SBC needed in order to hit 12s at the track. It explains why you need 350 Chevy cars to compare to 302 Ford cars.
Now be a good little liberal bitch and change the topic when you've been schooled.
10-10-2017, 07:57 AM
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woah hold on there just one second.
SBC does not hold a candle to Pontiac.
a 350 Pontiac murdered SBC in 1969.
VERY CONSERVATIVELY rated at 330hp, the 350 Pontiac pulled like a big block. it did so because it had big block heads.
be careful when you say SBC is better than everything out there. Pontiac was winning nascar races where there WAS no SBC.
SBC does not hold a candle to Pontiac.
a 350 Pontiac murdered SBC in 1969.
VERY CONSERVATIVELY rated at 330hp, the 350 Pontiac pulled like a big block. it did so because it had big block heads.
be careful when you say SBC is better than everything out there. Pontiac was winning nascar races where there WAS no SBC.
Seems after your explanation i was entirely right.
Because I am very frugal with my cars and they are way out of my price range.
397/404 sounds pretty damned balanced to me, yet is a loss in your mind, all because of the blue oval.
We've been down this hemi road before, I posted videos of hemi rams walking all over 6.0L chevys, you come up with lame excuses such as "it wasn't in tow haul mode" and claim that you won, because "I have never left 14's".
397/404 sounds pretty damned balanced to me, yet is a loss in your mind, all because of the blue oval.
We've been down this hemi road before, I posted videos of hemi rams walking all over 6.0L chevys, you come up with lame excuses such as "it wasn't in tow haul mode" and claim that you won, because "I have never left 14's".
Yea we been through the whole hemi vs ls thing......you lost there to. I countered your vids with other vids you have no ******* real life experiences other than a 14sec swap you dud.........now stfu. You have nothing goin on you loser bitch. Tell your mom to let you out of your room.
It's seriously hysterical how bobble is the king of all these hypothetical builds with special attention needed to compare to Ford builds that actually exist He never backs **** up, just says "they're out there" then pouts with different made up stories about why Ford vehicles hurt his feels.
To him, a 10.99999999 car that has spent 20 years building, and double the amount for everything other than heads, with aero mods galore, FP trans, and FORD rear, is somehow less effort than someone who spent less money, has better heads and cam, and drives the **** around his race car. Because the Ford car doesn't have factory heads Then the crickets really come out when you mention a OEM head from a Cleveland on a Windsor but but but they're different engines!!! Nawt fairrr!!!
You've shown your Ford ignorance for 10+ years on this site. SBCs are never impressive for the size they are. Always some big bad 380+ cube old school SBC needed in order to hit 12s at the track. It explains why you need 350 Chevy cars to compare to 302 Ford cars.
Now be a good little liberal bitch and change the topic when you've been schooled.
He never backs **** up, just says "they're out there" then pouts with different made up stories about why Ford vehicles hurt his feels. To him, a 10.99999999 car that has spent 20 years building, and double the amount for everything other than heads, with aero mods galore, FP trans, and FORD rear, is somehow less effort than someone who spent less money, has better heads and cam, and drives the **** around his race car. Because the Ford car doesn't have factory heads
Then the crickets really come out when you mention a OEM head from a Cleveland on a Windsor but but but they're different engines!!! Nawt fairrr!!! You've shown your Ford ignorance for 10+ years on this site. SBCs are never impressive for the size they are. Always some big bad 380+ cube old school SBC needed in order to hit 12s at the track. It explains why you need 350 Chevy cars to compare to 302 Ford cars.
Now be a good little liberal bitch and change the topic when you've been schooled.
My camaro ran a 10.76 and a 10.95 just to correct your lies.
My mustang is faster than snakes.......so is my camaro
10-10-2017, 08:27 AM
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My blown termi notch runs 11.5@121.xx. so this just shows the bullshit you spew is bullshit.
My ford is faster than yours......in4excuses
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My ford is faster than yours......in4excuses
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You said no slips, but you can post the times...60’ 330’ mph etc.
10-10-2017, 09:12 AM
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You should know by now I’m conservative about expectations.
I’m at 13 psi for the first runs. My timing is pulled for the first runs also. I picked up a tiny bit of a miss that was detonation when I read the plugs.
I’m only at 11.5 degrees. I will add boost before I raise the timing. If the trans lives I’m raising it to 18 psi. I’m also filling the tank with 112 octane.
I’m at 13 psi for the first runs. My timing is pulled for the first runs also. I picked up a tiny bit of a miss that was detonation when I read the plugs.
I’m only at 11.5 degrees. I will add boost before I raise the timing. If the trans lives I’m raising it to 18 psi. I’m also filling the tank with 112 octane.
10-10-2017, 09:20 AM
#111
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I think you are going to find out, when you finish your 800hp GN, it’s harder to ET that much power without a lot of runs. I have my instant center low and as far back as I can set it without a different upper setup.
Just good tires and decent suspension doesn’t mean I will hook enough to stay WOT in gear. I also have to lift shift to avoid blowing the trans to pieces.
Islander makes it look easy.
I have the front end raised 3/4” to help the anti squat line raise a little.
Just good tires and decent suspension doesn’t mean I will hook enough to stay WOT in gear. I also have to lift shift to avoid blowing the trans to pieces.
Islander makes it look easy.
I have the front end raised 3/4” to help the anti squat line raise a little.
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10-10-2017, 10:12 AM
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That thing better run a ******* 9 or it's a steamy turd after all the hyping up you've done about it.
Yeah hammer hio's friend runs 12s with a gutted fox and a 347, too.
The only SBCs here that run well are the stalled auto race gas ones with super high compression and 2 gallon fuel cells. Full blown race cars.
Yeah hammer hio's friend runs 12s with a gutted fox and a 347, too.
The only SBCs here that run well are the stalled auto race gas ones with super high compression and 2 gallon fuel cells. Full blown race cars.
10-10-2017, 10:22 AM
#113
I went low 12s with GT40 stuff and E/F cams ported in a full weight fox on tires. Sway bar was stil on/ MPH depending on air was 108-111 back in the day. Many people did. Some guys running TFS Twisted wedge heads done up were running high 11s 114ish back then.
There is a 383 IROC out here that runs high 10s on pump gas with a 700R4. Be interesting to see what Laurie runs with her new mods on here 383 solid roller third gen
There is a 383 IROC out here that runs high 10s on pump gas with a 700R4. Be interesting to see what Laurie runs with her new mods on here 383 solid roller third gen
10-10-2017, 12:26 PM
#115
You really tryin to balance your hp and tq man. Jesus you do not have a understanding of ****.
Yea we been through the whole hemi vs ls thing......you lost there to. I countered your vids with other vids you have no ******* real life experiences other than a 14sec swap you dud.........now stfu. You have nothing goin on you loser bitch. Tell your mom to let you out of your room.
Yea we been through the whole hemi vs ls thing......you lost there to. I countered your vids with other vids you have no ******* real life experiences other than a 14sec swap you dud.........now stfu. You have nothing goin on you loser bitch. Tell your mom to let you out of your room.
Looking at the balance, the 400sbc is 376@5k, and 448@3800. Makes for a great stoplight warrior or truck motor, but when we look at the windsor 391@5900, and 405@4300. I would take that windsor motor all day long.
You talk about the cam only cleveland having a rebuilt bottom end and milled heads, yet you make no mention of having to drill the ******* block on that 400 in order to run vortec heads.
Bone stock to bone stock, I would put my hemi ram vs any gen III iron block truck out there. I've had them all and that ram wins.
10-10-2017, 01:44 PM
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woah hold on there just one second.
SBC does not hold a candle to Pontiac.
a 350 Pontiac murdered SBC in 1969.
VERY CONSERVATIVELY rated at 330hp, the 350 Pontiac pulled like a big block. it did so because it had big block heads.
be careful when you say SBC is better than everything out there. Pontiac was winning nascar races where there WAS no SBC.
SBC does not hold a candle to Pontiac.
a 350 Pontiac murdered SBC in 1969.
VERY CONSERVATIVELY rated at 330hp, the 350 Pontiac pulled like a big block. it did so because it had big block heads.
be careful when you say SBC is better than everything out there. Pontiac was winning nascar races where there WAS no SBC.
Sbc is better. The problem with pontiac is they don't stay together cery well when you stretch the rpm's.
Ok so pontiac won before the sbc was there. You're talking pre 1955
What vid you want cyber?
10-10-2017, 01:49 PM
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10-10-2017, 01:54 PM
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It should be for all the **** he has talked about it
But yes i did address a couple things you tend to make up.
You should know by now I’m conservative about expectations.
I’m at 13 psi for the first runs. My timing is pulled for the first runs also. I picked up a tiny bit of a miss that was detonation when I read the plugs.
I’m only at 11.5 degrees. I will add boost before I raise the timing. If the trans lives I’m raising it to 18 psi. I’m also filling the tank with 112 octane.
I’m at 13 psi for the first runs. My timing is pulled for the first runs also. I picked up a tiny bit of a miss that was detonation when I read the plugs.
I’m only at 11.5 degrees. I will add boost before I raise the timing. If the trans lives I’m raising it to 18 psi. I’m also filling the tank with 112 octane.
That thing better run a ******* 9 or it's a steamy turd after all the hyping up you've done about it.
Yeah hammer hio's friend runs 12s with a gutted fox and a 347, too.
The only SBCs here that run well are the stalled auto race gas ones with super high compression and 2 gallon fuel cells. Full blown race cars.
Yeah hammer hio's friend runs 12s with a gutted fox and a 347, too.
The only SBCs here that run well are the stalled auto race gas ones with super high compression and 2 gallon fuel cells. Full blown race cars.
That 347 car went like 11.3 or 11.4. Now continue on with your lies.
You're the one trying to say that torque is everything, but only when it's a GM motor, as soon as I mentioned a diesel, with all of the torque in the world, then it goes back to a balance of tq and hp. Oh and I'm not talking about balance as in equal HP and TQ.
Looking at the balance, the 400sbc is 376@5k, and 448@3800. Makes for a great stoplight warrior or truck motor, but when we look at the windsor 391@5900, and 405@4300. I would take that windsor motor all day long.
You talk about the cam only cleveland having a rebuilt bottom end and milled heads, yet you make no mention of having to drill the ******* block on that 400 in order to run vortec heads.
Bone stock to bone stock, I would put my hemi ram vs any gen III iron block truck out there. I've had them all and that ram wins.
Looking at the balance, the 400sbc is 376@5k, and 448@3800. Makes for a great stoplight warrior or truck motor, but when we look at the windsor 391@5900, and 405@4300. I would take that windsor motor all day long.
You talk about the cam only cleveland having a rebuilt bottom end and milled heads, yet you make no mention of having to drill the ******* block on that 400 in order to run vortec heads.
Bone stock to bone stock, I would put my hemi ram vs any gen III iron block truck out there. I've had them all and that ram wins.
Stip dat **** yo.....what's wrong you afraid of a ho 5.3? You ****** moron. I've ran these trucks. I know wtf they do. You ******* don't. .....even if you owned 3 if every one you don't know wtf is goin on because you're a goddamn idiot.
10-10-2017, 02:50 PM
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