I was sitting at a traffic light waiting to take a left onto a divided four lane road and a new Viper (temp tags) pulled into the outside (left) turn lane. Since I had passed him earlier in a 40 mph area, I figured he was out to race. Since he had temp tags, I got a bad feeling that he may be unfamiliar with the power of the car. I let him jump me turning left and at the apex of the turn, he lost the rear end into my lane and then caught traction and shot across the center medium, over the grass, down another curb and ended up on the other side. At least no traffic was coming or else the damage would have been even greater. Needless to say, I didn't stop to provide assistance as a turbo F-body and a Viper together at an accident scene is an open invitation to a racing ticket. Thank goodness I let him jump me although it was rather surreal watching as I rolled out at a liesurely 5mph clip. All the money in the world doesn't buy driver skill! About the kill, the little accident probably killed his wallet!

 

OUCH Baby! Very OUCH!! LOL

 

I would have put my car behind a building somewhere in the area and gone over to help him, offer a cel phone, just help, IMO. That's just me.

 

First of all, thats BS why you didnt stop to aid assistance. You were afriad of getting a TICKET!!!!! A police officer cant issue a MV complaint on something he didnt observe!! With all the porblems that go on in this country with people comming to others' aid and u didnt stop. You make me sick!!!!!

 

Good samaritan rule shouldn't apply to recklessness, not negligence, recklessness. Viper guy was being reckless by doing **** in a car any person with brains would think to themselves maybe I shouldn't gun it in a turn especially if I just bought the damn thing and need to learn how to drive it. ACP had a hunch that the guy would've did something reckless and thats what happened, maybe viper guy will learn to not do **** in a car he is unfamiliar with in handling, and if he can afford a viper he probably has a cell phone, it's not like he rolled the car or set it on fire.

 

You have a point, but even if the guy was being STUPID I would STILL at least see if he was alright.

 

You have a point, but even if the guy was being STUPID I would STILL at least see if he was alright.

 

That was stupid of the viper owner, and I don't know if I would have helped either. Think about it. He could be mad and blamed AC and said they were racinf, even though AC wasn't racing at the time. People love to blame others nowadays for their stupid mistakes. The cops could have taken away both cars if they suspected racing. I know a friend of mine got written up for racing on an accident report when the cop didn't even see it.

 

You put your car somewhere out of sight, walk over and say, "Hey man, I saw what happened, you need anything?" Guy says no, or whatever, and you leave. WTF is so hard about that? Why is a cop going to give someone who walked over to the car a ticket? Be real, man.

Once I was racing a teg on some bumpy roads, the guy's car slammed, bottoming out after a bump at high speed and he lost control and slid out. I parked my car around the block, walked over, and started helping the guy with a flashlight figure out if he hit the oil pan or something. He was really nervous and thanked me for stopping. A cop showed up right before he was going to leave and considered giving the Teg guy a ticket and decided not to. The cop never even considered giving me one... Why the **** would he? I'm just some guy that walked over to help. What's the big ******* deal?

It's called motorists helping each other just in case there is need. Who the **** cares if it's negligence or recklessness? When I used to drive a T-bird and I was a teen, I lost control once on the interstate and went into a median, taking down a tree. I thought, "great, I'm fucked." Mt tires were popped and it was hard to push the car... I couldn't budge it. I was being VERY reckless when this happened. Strangers that saw it, some older college guys, came over and among the four of us now, helped me push it to a gas station and put it behind a car wash, away from view, while they lent me their spare plus my own to get it running again. I was reckless, and they still helped me. Big whoop? I never knew there were conditions to be met before helping people... That's a shitty attitude, sucks there are people like this...

 

the guy in the viper hit a curb, went over it, and came back down. he is not going to be hurt, maybe he bumped his head which would be good he needs something to help him remember how stupid he was. if it had been an accident where he might have actually been injured badly then i might go help him out.

 

You guys are right... My views are from another planet, totally out of touch, and this sort of outlook will get me a ticket one day trying to helpful.

Thanks to this thread, however, my re-education toward an improved civic presence with a smarter self-concern may begin. I'll get behind the wheel again only when I've mastered these scruples since they are new to me, and I want to be sure I've got them down.

 

I agree with bboyferal.

If you witness an accident or show up after one, no matter the circumstances..you stop to help or provide aid in anyway that you can. Do unto others as you would do unto yourself.

 

I wouldn't have helped. The guy went into a ditch, he didn't flip it and get thrown out of the vehicle. he didn't even hit anything besides a curb. Now if the car ran head on into a building or another car and burst into flames, i'd pull over and help, no question, but not for something as superficial and downright hilarious as a rich jackass spinning his way into a ditch.

Doesn't anyone else seriously see the humor in this? even vipers have airbags.

 

Yeah, if I was being a jackass and went into curb, and a passerby saw the humor in it and laughed, I'd totally be proud of my fellow Americans.

Of course, I see the humor in it. This is not a truck. It's a Viper that went over a curb, the steering is all fucked up probably, maybe oil pan issues, tire bulges, undercarriage scraped and/or bends, yeah, if I was the Viper's driver, I'd be laughing, too, along with the laugher passing by.

I'd hate to know what would happen if my F-body went over a curb. It'd be pretty sad if somebody found it funny, too, but there are people like that, I'm well, very well-aware.

 

wonder how he's gonna explain it to the insurance company

 

"Uhhhh, there was like this guy, in a car, and he stopped to help someone or something. And then he uhhh, got too close to the median, I swerved I mean, went into a power slide so as not to hit him and wrecked my car. Then he took off and didn't even help me."

It's your own choice if you want to stop and help. Stopping might get you a ticket or might get you killed by surrounding traffic or shot by some crazy viper owner that feels you are somehow responsible for his inexperience and related accident. It is up to the individual if they want to live with themselves for not stopping to help or possibly getting hurt themselves by stopping to help. None of us were there except AC. That is the person that has to live with his choice. Just as the Viper owner lives with his. Judging by the information relayed here, it was a fair choice that I'm sure many here would have made. If you feel differently, then relay your opinion in a civilized manner.

 

An angry Viper owner has deep pockets and a testosterone abundance...there was MUCH room for conflict/legalities had AC stopped, good move.

 

Okay, your assessment is correct from all angles. Moreover, both opinions hold such a validity, and one is cast and the other chosen based on which of these two values (1 & 2) is higher for the individual making the choice.

For a circumstantial state of affairs containing the characteristics of a dilemma, these would be the two values previously referred to:

1. Positive regard toward self

2. Positive regard toward others

They would hardly be found to be equal in any individual, one being higher than the other in most, thereby deciding the ultimate surmise for these kinds of choices for a particular individual. This is the dynamic, reasonable and civilized.

My opinion stands, and society benefits at the cost of self for outlooks of this sort. Altruism is a rare commodity, no doubt, because it seems unreasonable. Yet, we all expect it from others, interestingly. Welcome to big city life in America...

Case in point: Here in Miami, I saw something enlightening the other day. An old man had his hazards on and was coming to a stop with his engine smoking. Some lady that was stuck behind him and having trouble passing to another lane because nobody would let her (Oh, an accidental and additional premise) had to come to a stop, too. She was furious! She yelled at him at the top of her lungs and flipped him off! I had stopped from the other lane, to help, and proceeded to pull over to the side of the road as I saw this happen. My blood boiled, and I yelled at her, "What the **** do you want the guy to do. His car is fucked up! Be considerate."

She yells back, "This idiot needs to be considerate, I need to be at work and so does everybody else driving right now. People have jobs to get to, to feed their families. Why would somebody driving a car in that condition take this road at this time... He's ******* inconsiderate, you *******!" Then she flipped me off and drove onward. Yeah, people make their choices...

Operating on her set of values, there's no apparent fallacy and her outlook is well-supported, rational.

There are people on both sides, but we're lucky to have one kind and not so lucky to have the other. I suppose this is what my point is. I would hope it is not uncivilized, too.

 

The fact that it's possible the Viper owner was armed and crazy crossed my mind as well. I just didn't post it because it may be another "excuse" for me to keep on going. I never said I wouldn't call 911 and report the wreck though.

 

I wouldn't have stopped. Its actually pretty funny. The hell the police can't give you a ticket for what they didn't see. They can do WTF they want.