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Stock '01 WS6 vs Stock 04' Mach1

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Old 07-26-2006, 03:51 PM
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When I was at the track last time there were a couple of mach 1's.

They were trapping 103. And running consistant 13.5's.

Only saw one run of the one, but the other was a tad quicker. I know he had full exhaust and a raised shaker, but didn't talkt to him.

I was trapping 105-107, with lid and cai.

And I think they were better drivers because I was running 13.5@107 while they were doing it at 103.
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
IMO if it had been 6-speed vs 5-speed the LS1's would have pulled pretty well, same exact cars, just 6-speeds.
true, this is my old mach1 vs friend 99 z28 m6, both of us had mods

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...5592078673.htm
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
is that another challenge???
if so you'd better come through on the steak dinner this time!!

How about another best of 3 out of 5 N/A races? I MIGHT let you win one...
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Angus66
I've seen plenty of stock Mach's go 13.2 - 13.4 @ Mason Dixon Dragway,
which is just over the PA/MD border.

Where did you see all these Mach's run?

Pittsburgh Raceway Park?
yep they were all at pittsburgh raceway park
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:19 PM
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Nice race.

Sounds legit, Mach 1's are almost as fast as LS1's in most cases. Sometimes they are dead even. Depends on the specific car, as well as driver skill, ect.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 02blkws6vert
yep they were all at pittsburgh raceway park
That's what I suspected.

PRP is at fairly high altitude (1250 feet) & that' going to effect ET/MPH a good bit...
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Old 07-28-2006, 03:20 PM
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i didnt think 1250 was that high, there are some tracks that are 2500+
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
haha and you MIGHT actually run an 11?
you actually count that last run when you left and my brake lights were still on? and what about last time when you wouldnt even line up w/me? i think the winner is the guy holding the quickest/fastest slip!!
Okay, then I guess you just suck at heads up racing????? LOL...

Don't worry, I'll get the lil' ol' Mach in the 11s...
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Old 07-29-2006, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
at least i can drive, are'nt you the only mach w/your setup(or some with less mods) that's not in the 11's. or you gonna have to dump another $3000 in it to get there???
With the right driver it could have already turned an 11.99 WITHOUT that expensive intake. Unfortunately that's the only alternative for the 4v motor. Remember though, I'm still running more than 100 hp less than you are but with a little less weight AND I still have not gone into the motor yet like you have.

My car runs well and you know it. I'm not going to bench race the subject.
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Originally Posted by Nate81Camaro
thats pretty funny - one of my friends had a sonic blue 04 mach 1, other had a black 01 WS6 (both were manual). Mach pulled the WS6 from lower speed, but the WS6 ended up catching (and passing) at higher speeds. Props to the Mach1 for being pretty damn quick on 4.6 liters and 281 ci


*edit - btw, both of their cars were bone stock.....from air filters to tires....*
They did not make a sonic blue Mach 1. If it is medium blue then your friend doesn't have a Mach. They did have Azure Blue which is kinda like a pastel light blue.
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Old 07-29-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
who's bench racing? every time we go to the track i prove that my car is faster! you have never produced a faster slip than me. every time we raced your car was also more setup for drag racing than mine. i have always said that your car ran well, you started pokeing first...
Not poking, just not sure why you had to bring money into the picture .
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:22 PM
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When have I EVER said my car was close to stock????? It LOOKS stock.

What was your ET when you ran your 11? For the record you had full exhaust, 4.11s, and your cam (biggest mods).

I have all your power mods MINUS the cams and I was running only one to two tenths off of your time with more than a 100 hp deficeit and some weight reduction! ie: 11.90 (you) vs 12.06 (me). Add my cams and I'll let you do the math on a new et.

How fast do you think I'll be when the cams are in? Still slower than you?? Come on...I should be pushing close to 370+ rwhp with the cams, not to mention what the intake would add.

LS1's are ultimately faster. The point is you are not ULTIMATELY there yet, neither am I with my 4v.
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Old 07-30-2006, 01:10 PM
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Read post #83 again, I mentioned my weight reduction (I also outweigh your person by 100 lbs).

It's going to be a good race. You and the new C6 can have at each other too since it's fixing to be "not stock" anymore. Fun, fun, fun...
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Forget it. See you at Christmas.
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Originally Posted by 02blkws6vert
yep they were all at pittsburgh raceway park

I'm almost always the only Mach there when I go. Just out of curiosity, the 14's you see bieng run, is it an Azure blue Mach? I've seen one there running 14's on two different occasions I think.
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cam99
I'm almost always the only Mach there when I go. Just out of curiosity, the 14's you see bieng run, is it an Azure blue Mach? I've seen one there running 14's on two different occasions I think.
Purely nothing more than dissapointing. Needs an ASUSMC driver mod.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Cam99
I'm almost always the only Mach there when I go. Just out of curiosity, the 14's you see bieng run, is it an Azure blue Mach? I've seen one there running 14's on two different occasions I think.
its been a while since ive been there but yes it was a blue one
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Wow...this was an interesting read. Two great cars......drivers race.


Slow vette, jester, grey, angus - how's it going?


Seriously though, is it that hard for everyone to admit stock for stock it comes down to skill of the driver - ESPECIALLY on the street. MPHs are higher on LSx, no doubt, but the ETs are about dead even.
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Slow vette, jester, grey, angus - how's it going?
hey sup man?, i didn't kno u just joined ls1tech. i thought u were already a member here. anyways enjoy ur stay
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Originally Posted by 02blkws6vert
its been a while since ive been there but yes it was a blue one

I thought it might have been. A disappointment to the marque. Mines white, but I don't go to PRP to much anymore. Tired of getting only two runs in.
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