Raced a New Stang GT "OVER RATED"
05-11-2007, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeD101898
Trust me man you don't want to get into this. There are multiple threads stating the proven facts of these cars. I also own a 98 Camaro Z28, among a couple others. Therefore am not bias one way or another (rather multiple ways I guess). Please lets not ruin this thread.
This thread has already been ruined. It started with the know it all that loves 3rd gens so much he put a LS motor in it. It continued with your comments.
As for me? I hope Unit locks this thing...unless he wants to keep the humor/arguing going.
05-11-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Have you ever driven a fox-body? You should drive a 5.0 notchback and rethink that statement.
Nope, never driven a fox-body and for that matter a 3rd gen, just to be honest. My brother did have a fast (0-20mph) and slow (20+ mph) 82 Trans Am buts that a different story.
So personal experience I lack, but I'm sure some 3rd gen folks could chime in and correct you because I'm fairly certain about 3rd gens, at least the WS6, handled better than a Fox.
05-11-2007, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
True to a point. Most 3rd gens where TBI 350's and 305's,
The 305 TPI's where somewhat gutless, but the L98 350's held thier own though. The GTA's and Iroc-Z's are cool cars no doubt.
The last year of the L98 was 92, and I believe it was 225hp/340tq.
Thats more than a 95 Mustang GT.
The 305 TPI's where somewhat gutless, but the L98 350's held thier own though. The GTA's and Iroc-Z's are cool cars no doubt.
The last year of the L98 was 92, and I believe it was 225hp/340tq.
Thats more than a 95 Mustang GT.
No, it was 245 hp/ 345 torque, and the corvette L98 was 250/350, because of aluminum heads.
The L98 was made to take out 5.0 mustangs. Even though it's a good race between the 2, the L98 should win 80% of the time. My bolt-on L98 made it to 13.8 @ 100 mph. There's a guy on ThirdGen.org that swapped a t-56 and all he had was intake/exhaust and he ran a 13.89 @ 100-101 (Can't remember)
Third Gens are somewhat limited by the auto tranny, but the t-56 w/ a good gear and bolt ons they will move pretty well.
05-11-2007, 06:08 PM
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Ive only skimmed over this thread but dont tell me the astute GM guys are saying 305 and 350 Irocs cleaned the streets when 5.0's were out. Ive had both Iroc's and an LG4 Z28 (first car) and that would be insane (in the membrane). A black Steeda/bolt on Coupe with the parking lights on driving around on a friday night was enough to make all GM bowties envious. I still do it every night and oh yea, its Friday night. Man I have too many friends on here to take sides too. 
05-11-2007, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
They ran very smmooottthhhh...and very slloooowwww.... 
They aren't SLOW!!!1!!11! my friend in his 96 GT ran a 15.2 @ 90 with full exhaust an K&N...that's all it took to get into the 15's. Also a lot of stickers too.
05-11-2007, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
No, it was 245 hp/ 345 torque, and the corvette L98 was 250/350, because of aluminum heads.
The L98 was made to take out 5.0 mustangs. Even though it's a good race between the 2, the L98 should win 80% of the time. My bolt-on L98 made it to 13.8 @ 100 mph. There's a guy on ThirdGen.org that swapped a t-56 and all he had was intake/exhaust and he ran a 13.89 @ 100-101 (Can't remember)
Third Gens are somewhat limited by the auto tranny, but the t-56 w/ a good gear and bolt ons they will move pretty well.
The L98 was made to take out 5.0 mustangs. Even though it's a good race between the 2, the L98 should win 80% of the time. My bolt-on L98 made it to 13.8 @ 100 mph. There's a guy on ThirdGen.org that swapped a t-56 and all he had was intake/exhaust and he ran a 13.89 @ 100-101 (Can't remember)
Third Gens are somewhat limited by the auto tranny, but the t-56 w/ a good gear and bolt ons they will move pretty well.
05-11-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fierobird
So personal experience I lack, but I'm sure some 3rd gen folks could chime in and correct you because I'm fairly certain about 3rd gens, at least the WS6, handled better than a Fox.
like to say. Personally, I think turning is over-rated anyway.
05-11-2007, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
A late 80s 5.0 notchback 5spd was a low 14s car in capable hands...
05-12-2007, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 91 LS1 Z28
Nope, never thought the ford 302 was the ls1 of that time or the ****, I always and still do think they are garbage. I see enough of them broken down on the side of the road, even new or a few year old mustangs broken down on the side of the road to back that theory up. Before you spew nonsense you may want to check your facts also, unless ordered without it, all irocs came with a/c. As a matter of fact, most 3rd gen camaros came with a/c except for the 4 cylinder cars that were made back in the early 80's.
Oh and if you check google .com some of the 5.7 Irocs had no a/c 
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05-12-2007, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by kennyxg
Mine is still running and runs 12.80 on motor daily driver, 11.80 on 125 shot a/c and heater stock heads . I see you switched to an ls1 point proven! Oh and if you check google .com some of the 5.7 Irocs had no a/c http://s146.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=HPIM2581.flv
Oh and if you check google .com some of the 5.7 Irocs had no a/c http://s146.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=HPIM2581.flv
05-12-2007, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 91 LS1 Z28
Damn you Mustang guys know it all, too bad I bought my car in February with the LS1 in it already and all the other mods done to it already. I didn't care what motor it had in it really as long as it made around 350 horse or more at the motor and had a T56. It just so happens I wanted a 9 inch rear ( the only good thing ford makes ). I didn't and still don't have the time to do the stuff my car has done to it and I wouldn't pay someone to do something I can do myself with a few friends and a few cases of beer. I don't have to do a google search either, a/c in irocs was a standard factory option unless the car was ordered without it or it was a 1le. Then again, do you even know what a 1le is ? LOL, nice granny shifting and R/T in your video also.
17 year old tech still daily driven no rebuild ! Last edited by kennyxg; 05-12-2007 at 01:48 AM.
05-12-2007, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 91 LS1 Z28
Damn you Mustang guys know it all, too bad I bought my car in February with the LS1 in it already and all the other mods done to it already. I didn't care what motor it had in it really as long as it made around 350 horse or more at the motor and had a T56. It just so happens I wanted a 9 inch rear ( the only good thing ford makes ). I didn't and still don't have the time to do the stuff my car has done to it and I wouldn't pay someone to do something I can do myself with a few friends and a few cases of beer. I don't have to do a google search either, a/c in irocs was a standard factory option unless the car was ordered without it or it was a 1le. Then again, do you even know what a 1le is ? LOL, nice granny shifting and R/T in your video also.
05-12-2007, 01:30 PM
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lol.....
Originally Posted by unit213
Just out of curiousity, which is older....your car or you?
05-13-2007, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kennyxg
Dont hate baby hope you enjoyed the vid talk is cheap my friend! peace! Stock bolt on 5.0 ! post a vid next time instead of talking **** . 17 year old tech still daily driven no rebuild !
17 year old tech still daily driven no rebuild !
05-13-2007, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
No, it was 245 hp/ 345 torque, and the corvette L98 was 250/350, because of aluminum heads.
The L98 was made to take out 5.0 mustangs. Even though it's a good race between the 2, the L98 should win 80% of the time. My bolt-on L98 made it to 13.8 @ 100 mph.
The L98 was made to take out 5.0 mustangs. Even though it's a good race between the 2, the L98 should win 80% of the time. My bolt-on L98 made it to 13.8 @ 100 mph.
88 Mustang Coupe. Bone stock except a lousy computer chip (this was 1988, after all) it went 14.07 @ 99 mph. Add an off-road exhaust and it went 13.75 @ 100 mph. With just bolt-ons and slicks, it went 12.52 @ 107 mph.
There are other similar examples out there.
Someone please find me a 3rd Gen that has gone anywhere near that quick with an externally-stock, original motor. For that matter, find me one that has broken 12's at all with just bolt-ons.
And I'm not hating....we had an 85 Z28. Very nice car. Just not very fast.
Originally Posted by MikeD101898
Trust me man you don't want to get into this. There are multiple threads stating the proven facts of these cars.
91 LS1 Z28....there is no such thing as a "standard option". Either it is standard, or it is an option. Certainly most cars came with A/C (Mustang or Camaro), as that is the way most dealers stocked their lots.
And I'm sorry, you simply don't know what you're talking about when it comes to 3rd Gen VS Fox-body.
05-13-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
I had a 3rd gen...it sucked miserably "in the twisties" as all the ricers
like to say. Personally, I think turning is over-rated anyway.
like to say. Personally, I think turning is over-rated anyway.