Killemall

Slow vette you have to remember that the C6Z06 isnt fast ecause it's dynoing 500 rwhp and 500 rwt..

It's only got 440 rwhp and 425 rwt on average..

It's fast because it weighs 3100-3200 pounds and has a drag of .34 and 3.42 gearing..

Weight is GREAT for the 1/8 mile...After that a few 100 pounds makes little differance..

Gearing is GREAT for the 1/8 mile...After that it makes little differance and will actually hurt you more on the big end than help..

While an propely driven C6Z06 should be 3 tenths aster than a properly driven SRT10 in the 1/4 mile. This is mainly do to weight/gearing

On a roll race of 70-150 mph it is much closer than the 1/4 mile..Again 200 pounds less weight on a moving vehicle at 70 mph means much less than from a stand still..

and 3.42 gears yanking you down the 60 ft mean less at 70 mph ..

On a rollrace the Torque of the Viper means quite a bit more than in the 1/4 mile were it just hurts the Vipers and causes them to loose traction...

On a 70 mph roll race 480 rwt is your friend vs your enemy in the 60 ft at the 1/4 mile..

This is one of my favorite videos..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVLPMpnvpUk

The first and last race are the best. both 100 % bone stock

Is the C6Z06 faster???Yes..But the torque of the Viper off the initial hit makes it a very close race..

equal drivers? No idea..But they both seemed ready for this with passangers and video cameras...

Killemall

Or what about this yellow vs yellow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7epDmaI3m4

Slow Vette

iTrader: (1)

wtf are talking about man? that vid only shows a viper and a z06 playing on the highway....the only real run is the last one where they actually both go at it, and it clearly shows the viper being pulled, but as soon as that happens, they magically shut down.

the only thing i know, is that i murdered that 01 GTS pushing 460rwhp, 520rwtq, 3+cars from 50-140, and still pulling...

Slow Vette

iTrader: (1)

dude, a viper would get a bus put on by a Z06 with equal driver's

just accept that and get over it...

not only have i beat that viper, but i have beaten my friends rx-7 pushing 450 by 2 cars, when my car is making the same power, and weighs 400lbs more.

i have beaten TT G35 at 17psi with race gas pushing 540 by 2 cars...all these runs were from 50-140....

i have beaten a really quick ????? with a big turbo at 28psi with race gas pushing 460, by 2 cars too....from 60-160

i've even ran an 06 Cbr 600 RR with a damn good rider, from 60-160, and pulled it when that bike traps at 132 in 1/4...the whole time i was 1 bike behind until i pulled him

Killemall

Still not a beleaver hugh??????

OK..What aout this review by popular mechanics????

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...81.html?page=1

Same day..Same drivers...Same track...

the Z06 runs 12.0 at 120 and the Viper runs 12.1 at 121 mph..

The conditions were equal yet the Viper trapped higher..

Your so quick to spout off 11.6 at 126..Yet dont aknowledge the 11.7's at 123 mph that a few mags have got with SRT10's..

You dont aknowledge that road and track pulled better 1/4 mile times than the C6z06 with an SRT10 at the same track at the same day..

You dont aknoweledge that half the mags did better with the SRT10 on road courses than the C6Z06....

Why so much hate????Seriously. numbers are what they are and the 2003-2006 has whooped some C6Z06 *** on a few ocassions with the same driver at the same track in magazines...

Killemall

Now show me one review of a c5Z06 beating some SRT10 ***...there arent any cas it's not even close..But the SRT10's 123 trapp speeds is closer than you like to admit..

Ive seen your top 10 C6z06 list..they are all around 120-123 mph trapp speeds. only ranger has the 127 mph trapp speeds. Yet with your cockness you act like they all trapp that.. Bull ****

Slow Vette

iTrader: (1)

not hating, just saying that a srt10 would get a bus put on by a c6z06 on the highway....can you comprehend that??

denial is a horrible thing

Slow Vette

iTrader: (1)

i never said anything about what a Z06 traps at, you are delusional thinking an SRT10 will be close to the Z06 from 50-160 punch....keep scratching your head on why that is...

Slow Vette

iTrader: (1)

oh yeah, i have even beaten a ported eaton cobra from a roll by 2 cars, when i was just getting used to the power of the car, and barely broken in...i believe the cobra was pushing somewhere around 520.

another thing, just for reference, but my friends rx-7 trapped 125-126 the last time he went to the track....

the Z06's 4th gear(120-160) will just eat a SRT10 alive....

can't wait to run the new viper....

Killemall

OK...

If the C6Z06 will eat the SRT10 alive from 120-160..

WHY DO NUMEROUS REPORTS SAY THAT AT THE 1 MILE TESTING THE SRT10 AND C6Z06 ARE NEARLY TRAPPING THE SAME MPH WITH 2 MPH OF EACHOTHER..some have the SRT10 trapping higher at the mile and some the c6Z06..

The reason is because after 150 mph the gearing on the c6Z06 makes the z "fall on it's face" as stated by some actual C6z06 owners...

On the other hand the 3.07's on the SRT10 start to shine at these speeds..

BoostedGTS

I don't know that the hell you are talking about but you clearly do not understand mechanics very well. There are two types of torque when dealing with cars: Engine torque that is transferred to the wheels, and then there is Overall Torque at the wheels which is the Transmission Gear Ratio * Final Driver Ratio * Engine Torque. Overall Torque is all that matters when we are talking about acceleration. The Z06 and the Viper have the exact same transmission gearing however the final drive ratio varies. 3.42 / 3.07 = 11.4% more mechanical advantage for the Z06. Also, the C6 Z06 the has a 7000 RPM red line vs 6000 RPM red line for the SRT-10. 7000/6000 = 16.67 % more RPM. What does this mean to the mean in layman's terms? The Z06 can pull to a higher speed in each gear, before it runs out of RPM as compared to the SRT-10. This means the Z06's gearing advantage will not magically disappear at after the 1/8 mile it will always be there.

Overall Torque @ Wheels in 4th gear:
Z06: 3.42 * 425 = 1453.5
SRT-10: 3.07 * 480 = 1473.6

Viper makes a lot more engine torque at the wheels but the Overall Torque at the wheels is actually very close with in 1% of each other. This 1% variance will remain constant in EVERY GEAR it will not disappear in 5th gear. The weight advantage is more than enough to make up for the 1% variance in Overall torque.

For the record, I own a 1997 Blue and White Viper GTS.

Fadi

Guys, why are you arguing with Killemall?? Don't you get it? Don't you see it? Don't you smell it?

It is called..

DENIAL

The Z06 would absolutly MURDER, DESTROY, an SRT-10 from a roll on race. I don't give a **** what vids you seen online, Killemall. I have a video right here of me beating an SRT-10 in my cat-back exhaust/cai 2001 Z06 that dynoed 340 rwhp. Just because I have this video, does that mean that the C5 Z06 is actually faster than an SRT-10?? We all know the answer to that. It is called DRIVER!!!! We all know and SRT-10 would beat a C5 Z06, especially past 100 given EQUAL DRIVERS. Want the video? Here it is!!

C5 Z06 vs. SRT-10 Viper

And you have never seen the Z06 run from 0-150 in 17.5 secs in a magazine? Well, this recent issue of C&D, you know, the one that has the Z06 BARELY losing so ever slightly to the 100 MORE horsepowered V-10, 8.4L Viper, has the Z06 running 0-150 in 17.5.

"Well Fadi, this must be the first time it ran that time" you might add, right? WRONG!!

0-150 in 17.5 secs

SO SNAP OUT OF IT, THE Z06 KILLS THE CURRENT SRT-10 ESPECIALLY PAST 100, REGARDLESS OF WHAT VIDS YOU WANT TO SHOW ME.

Killemall

It's all good man..

It's a differant day. Were both driving 2 out of 3 of the top american regular production cars. Mabey it's time to just get along and talk about killing europeans..

The C6Z06 is a lil faster and the SRT10 is a lil more rare...Some would take the C6Z06 anyday of the week and some the Viper any day of the week

METALBEAST

iTrader: (1)

And FWIW, the driver of the Viper is Jeff Mingledorf (owns a 800+ RWHP pump gas TT 03 Cobra), a good friend of mine. Its his dad's Viper and the guy can drive like noone's business. I asked him about that run one day over at our friend's house and he said "Oh its no comparison. It was that bad. That Z06 just waxed my Viper".

Fadi

The only way a current Viper would take a Z06 anyday of the week is if the Z06 driver is drunk

Killemall

No..I ment some would choose to own a c6Z06 and some a SRT10..There both bad ***..Now enough BS..

Fadi

We finally agree..

FAST FREDDY

if he ever decides to mod his 2003 viper it will be a sad day for you

Fadi

I didn't think such a dumb comment would come out of someone in the know like you. Did you forget that both cars can be modded?

Oh, and did you guys see the new MT? Got the Viper ahead in the quarter by .1 secs and 2.8 mph. So, this is the THIRD source that has gotten the Viepr ONLY .1 sec ahead through the 1/4. Sad if you ask me. I think we now can confidently say that the Viper is hardly any faster than the Z06 with 100 more HP!!

Whatever happend to this car WALKING a Z06? Funny thing is, this 100 MORE hp'd car has yet to match the Z06's 11.5@127 time it got from C&D.

Just imagine what the 650 hp Vet is going to do to the 600 hp Viper, especially given that the 600 HP Viper is hardly faster than the 505 HP'd C6 Z06..OUCH!!

FAST FREDDY

you keep quoting all these different sources that all say the 2008 viper is quicker and faster than the C6 Z06 with facts to back up their results and yet all you do is make excuses the fact is that you are in DENIAL. the 2008 viper is faster that the C6 Z06, get over it.......